[Sugar-devel] [GSOC] Proposals for Create new set of activities

[Tony Anderson]

Walter,

The XO version (OLPC OS) is apparently capped at F18. There is also an 
apparent cap on the version of WebKit. I wish I had time to try this but 
I doubt I will be able to try it in the near term.  This is something 
that could be done by a GSOC candidate as part of getting on-board.

Tony


On 4/7/19 11:41 PM, Walter Bender wrote:
> I did make (needs to be updated) xo bundling of Music Blocks in a 
> Browse activity wrapper. The problem was, it would not run the synth 
> on older machines. (It works in my F29 environment.) If you can 
> confirm that MB works in Browse in your environment, I'll be inspired 
> to update the bundle.
>
> regards.
>
> -walter
>
> On Fri, Apr 5, 2019 at 4:52 PM Tony Anderson <tony at olenepal.org 
> <mailto:tony at olenepal.org>> wrote:
>
>     Scratch is heavily used in Rwanda. The users do not find the 1.4
>     version
>     as a limitation.
>
>     As far as I can see, Music Blocks was not developed as a Sugar
>     Activity.
>     A worthwhile first step would be to see if it works in Gnome on an
>     XO.
>     This is presumably something a candidate with access to an XO can
>     do to
>     show interest and competence. This could provide insight into
>     whether it
>     would be feasible or worthwhile to port Music Blocks to Sugar
>
>     Tony
>
>
>     On 4/5/19 5:59 AM, James Cameron wrote:
>     > We have 17 draft or final proposals.  Most have also been
>     published on
>     > sugar-devel@, but not all.  None have addressed the Scratch related
>     > ideas.
>     >
>     > That's fine.  It's up to the students what they want to work on.  We
>     > gave them many ideas.  If Scratch were so important, we would have
>     > given them less ideas.
>     >
>     > I don't think there's anything terribly wrong with the ideas that
>     > mention Scratch.  Port Sugarizer activities to Sugar has the most
>     > detailed description;
>     >
>     >
>     https://github.com/sugarlabs/GSoC/blob/master/Ideas-2019.md#port-sugarizer-activities-to-sugar
>     >
>     > I do think we are wrong to assume and hope that a student will adopt
>     > an idea.  If I were a student, I'd note;
>     >
>     > * it's not a new thing, but a port of an existing thing,
>     >
>     > * the technical complexity, or challenge, especially the work that
>     >    would be required in WebKit to support audio, (Browse, #85),
>     >
>     > * the history of little progress in the code that needs to be
>     >    maintained,
>     >
>     > * that few of the mentors have made any successful steps toward the
>     >    goal, and;
>     >
>     > * there's been more hot air (talk) than action (coding),
>     >
>     > I don't think we should be complaining about what students have
>     failed
>     > to propose.  We should be encouraging instead.
>     >
>     > So to any students out there thinking of a first, second, or third
>     > proposal, consider "Port Sugarizer activities to Sugar". ;-)
>     >
>     > On Thu, Apr 04, 2019 at 12:22:48PM +0100, Chihurumnaya Ibiam wrote:
>     >> I'm happy to see the students bring in their own ideas too, I'm
>     saying these
>     >> activity ideas are being neglected,
>     >> as all proposals suggested so far have been pointing towards
>     creating something
>     >> new, while that's great we also
>     >> need to improve on what already exists.
>     >> Although there wasn't a specified number of activities to be
>     created but I
>     >> don't think creating just one activity would be
>     >> great as proposals so far are only referring to creating just
>     one new activity,
>     >> while the idea says a "new set of activities".
>     >> For Scratch, there's also a mention in the "Port sugarizer
>     activities to Sugar"
>     >> idea but so far I've not seen a proposal for that.
>     >>
>     >> --
>     >>
>     >> Ibiam Chihurumnaya
>     >> [1]ibiamchihurumnaya at gmail.com <mailto:ibiamchihurumnaya at gmail.com>
>     >>
>     >> On Thu, Apr 4, 2019 at 9:18 AM Rahul Bothra
>     <[2]rrbothra at gmail.com <mailto:rrbothra at gmail.com>> wrote:
>     >>
>     >>      Thanks for the suggestion.
>     >>
>     >>      I disagree. I am happy to see the students bringing in
>     their own ideas for
>     >>      activities.
>     >>      FWIW, we have already mentioned the suggested ideas, as
>     well as the
>     >>      resources to understand user experience. I would like to
>     give students the
>     >>      freedom to decide what they want to work on
>     >>
>     >>      On Thu, Apr 4, 2019 at 5:55 AM Chihurumnaya Ibiam <[3]
>     >> ibiamchihurumnaya at gmail.com
>     <mailto:ibiamchihurumnaya at gmail.com>> wrote:
>     >>
>     >>          Hi Everyone,
>     >>
>     >>          I've looked at the proposals for [4]create a new set
>     of activities and
>     >>          none has addressed any of the activities proposed in
>     the idea, although
>     >>          the project idea encourages new ideas but I think that
>     we should
>     >>          clearly state the importance of the ones suggested as
>     they're very
>     >>          important.
>     >>          Scratch for one is very important as it's currently
>     widely used and
>     >>          having it in sugar would mean more users.
>     >>
>     >>          I think that the importance of these ideas should be
>     stated and they
>     >>          shouldn't be neglected as they have.
>     >>
>     >>          Issue [5]#63.
>     >>
>     >>          --
>     >>
>     >>          Ibiam Chihurumnaya
>     >>          [6]ibiamchihurumnaya at gmail.com
>     <mailto:ibiamchihurumnaya at gmail.com>
>     >>
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>     >> References:
>     >>
>     >> [1] mailto:ibiamchihurumnaya at gmail.com
>     <mailto:ibiamchihurumnaya at gmail.com>
>     >> [2] mailto:rrbothra at gmail.com <mailto:rrbothra at gmail.com>
>     >> [3] mailto:ibiamchihurumnaya at gmail.com
>     <mailto:ibiamchihurumnaya at gmail.com>
>     >> [4]
>     https://github.com/sugarlabs/GSoC/blob/master/Ideas-2019.md#create-a-new-set-of-activities
>     >> [5] https://github.com/sugarlabs/GSoC/issues/63
>     >> [6] mailto:ibiamchihurumnaya at gmail.com
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