[Sugar-devel] SL Marketing meeting?

Samson Goddy samsongoddy at gmail.com
Fri Oct 19 14:18:37 EDT 2018

For those who missed the meeting. Here are the logs



On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 1:15 PM Samson Goddy <samsongoddy at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello all,
> Friendly reminder!! The meeting will be at 17:00 UTC
> See you there!!
> Regards
> On Fri, Oct 12, 2018 at 11:25 AM Sidhant Bhavnani <
> bhavnanisidhant at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Looking forward to it. I have some ideas of how to go about integrating
>> some of it into GCI.
>> Regards,
>> Sidhant Bhavnani
>> On Fri 12 Oct, 2018, 12:59 PM Samson Goddy, <samsongoddy at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> I don't plan to work alone. I plan to work with everyone. My mail wasn't
>>> specific to any group of persons.
>>> I add "thought" for more ideas of what to discuss because it is open.
>>> It is an open space anyone can contribute.
>>> Regards
>>> On Fri, Oct 12, 2018, 8:05 AM James Cameron <quozl at laptop.org> wrote:
>>>> Marketing related?  So is everything we do.
>>>> Don’t exclude the people who aren’t willing to meet in yet another
>>>> meeting?  If you do, you’ll just be ignored.  Let’s work together instead.
>>>> > On 12 Oct 2018, at 7:55 am, Samson Goddy <samsongoddy at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > Noted, but I also believe they are Marketing related.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > On Thu, Oct 11, 2018, 9:43 PM James Cameron <quozl at laptop.org> wrote:
>>>> > Only one of your topics are relevant to Marketing; the first one.
>>>> >
>>>> > The other topics are best suited for the board, or the mailing lists.
>>>> >
>>>> > Please don’t try to hold new meetings just to avoid the existing
>>>> meetings and collaborations?  Work to build consensus rather than dividing
>>>> into more subgroups.
>>>> >
>>>> > I don't understand this part of the mail. Avoid existing meetings and
>>>> collaboration?
>>>> >
>>>> > Could you throw more light on these points.
>>>> >
>>>> > > On 12 Oct 2018, at 1:27 am, Samson Goddy <samsongoddy at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Hello All,
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Since 2016 [1], we haven't really talked about the marketing plan
>>>> for SL. I am making an open call for have a meeting by tomorrow.  17:00 UTC
>>>> [2]
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Share your thought?
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Topics ranging from;
>>>> > >
>>>> > > 1. Outreach (SL Ambassador, swag)
>>>> > > 2. Sugar roadmap
>>>> > > 3. Sugar Labs goals [3]
>>>> > > 4. Deployment
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > > [1] https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Marketing_Team
>>>> > > [2] https://www.worldtimeserver.com/convert_time_in_UTC.aspx
>>>> > > [3] https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Goals/2018_Submissions
>>>> > > --
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Samson Goddy
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>>>> > > Email: samsongoddy at sugarlabs.org
>>>> > >             samsongoddy at gmail.com
>>>> > >
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>>>> > >
>>>> > >
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Samsongoddy Hello all
Perrie        Hi
samsongoddy        Hello Perrie
sidhantb has joined (744a2af4 at gateway/web/freenode/ip.
Eohomegrownapps (is there a meeting now?)
Samsongoddy yes
Samsongoddy Welcome everyone
Samsongoddy Today we will be discussing about reviving SL Marketing plan / Strategy 
Samsongoddy First one of the priorities is to revive the SL Ambassadorship program  
Samsongoddy See https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Marketing_Team/Ambassadors
18:05 samsongoddy As a community we keep building tools for learning but we spend less time showcasing those tools to the public
Samsongoddy How do we do that?
Samsongoddy I think that is where the SL Ambassadorship program play a role 
Samsongoddy According the wiki
Samsongoddy Represent Sugar Labs as the best K-6 learning platform available to teachers, parents, and funders
Samsongoddy Spread the word about computer-assisted learning and ebooks; share information about computer-assisted learning and ebooks, what educators are doing, what works and what doesn't
Samsongoddy Visit schools and demonstrate Sugar to Learners and teachers, channelling feedback to Sugar Labs
Samsongoddy Found Sugar Local Labs in their communities
Samsongoddy Assist with documentation and translations
Samsongoddy Help recruit Sugar Labs contributors and Local Labs participants
Samsongoddy Liaise with OLPC grassroots associations
Samsongoddy Represent Sugar Labs to the wider public
Samsongoddy Help spread the word about Sugar, Linux, and Open Source
Samsongoddy Be a point of contact for local community members and channel the feedback to Sugar Labs
Samsongoddy Help recruit project contributors
Samsongoddy Think of creative ways for promoting Sugar in your region
Sidhantb I like the idea of an Ambassadors program but it does present several challenges.
Samsongoddy what challenges? 
sidhantbFor starters who will the Ambassadors be targeting? Developers, Schools, or both?
Samsongoddy Both
Samsongoddy Those are the plans 
sidhantbBut then again, both of them are really different and will require different skill sets.
Samsongoddy That is why they are open to the public
Samsongoddy Like for example
Samsongoddy I do reach out to both categories
Samsongoddy I think it depends on your area of experties
Samsongoddy familiar with the Google Developer's Expert group?
Sidhantb Yep.
Samsongoddy So that is the angle we are thinking
Sidhantb I see.
Perrie We can get started by planning and organizing meet ups to create awareness.
Samsongoddy Actually yes
Samsongoddy that is one of the goal
Samsongoddy plan an event or attend one
Sidhantb We do have a fairly big developer base here in New Delhi, India. There is a lot of potential for meetups here.
Samsongoddy Exactly
Samsongoddy I am in a continent that people are willing to dive into open source projects
Samsongoddy Those are were these positions come in play
Sidhantb But then again, that's developer outreach. There isn't any point in building learning tools that aren't being used. I feel that we should have somewhat of a blog or social media posts by/of our users of the platform.
Samsongoddy We don have social accounts 
Sidhantb Yes.
Samsongoddy Twitter, instagram and Facebook
Samsongoddy even Youtube
Samsongoddy but we need volunteers
Sidhantb But we aren't showing our users of our platform.
Sidhantb Agreed.
Sidhantb We do need volunteers.
Sidhantb How about we use a tool like buffer.com
Samsongoddy So we will have to call for volunteers 
Perrie We should reach out to our users first, some might want to volunteer
Samsongoddy Is it free?
Samsongoddy what about hootsuite
Perrie They can become pioneers of the program too
Sidhantb Any platform works till we can schedule posts and post on several platforms together.
Sidhantb @perrie +1
Samsongoddy https://hootsuite.com/
Samsongoddy Our facebook page is verified by facebook
Samsongoddy we need to do similar to twitter
Sidhantb And Instagram.
Samsongoddy Yes
sidhantbI was thinking of leveraging GCI for marketing.
Samsongoddy What do you think?
Samsongoddy can you share?
Sidhantb I feel it's important for a social media design guideline following SL's design principles.
Sidhantb Making the guideline can be several GCI task in itself.
Sidhantb We can also have students making posts following that guideline later on.
Samsongoddy perrie?
Samsongoddy I think that is where you come in
Samsongoddy We need design guidelines
Sidhantb This will give us a large repository of post that we can use year around.
Sidhantb *posts
Samsongoddy +1 sidhantb 
Perrie +1
Perrie I’ll put those together, anybody willing to join can 😄
Sidhantb I was thinking of making each social media platform a GCI task within itself.
Sidhantb Making the students learn the design patterns of SL and implement it by making guidelines.
Samsongoddy Okay share them with me
perriesidhantb: more light
Sidhantb So each student can take up a 5 day task to design a specific guideline for Facebook, Twitter and Instagram.
Sidhantb And they'd need to study our design style and write documentation for each platform.
Samsongoddy +1 
Perrie Great!
Samsongoddy Let's try to experiment 
Samsongoddy with the post on Social Media 
Samsongoddy I have access to all accounts
Samsongoddy I can add anyone that is interested 
Sidhantb Our fonts, iconography, principles, need to be considered while writing the guideline. They'd need to think about how each platform works differently and how Sugar Lab's design principles can be applied.
Samsongoddy in helping to do some online outreach
Samsongoddy Brilliant
Samsongoddy I remember discussing that 
perriesidhantb: +1
perriesamsongoddy: I’m interested
Samsongoddy anyone interested can shot me an email
Perrie I also think swags shouldn’t be left out especially for meet ups it helps spread the word too
Samsongoddy I think we need to have a unique email for SM
Samsongoddy something like pr at sugrlabs.org
Samsongoddy or info at sugarlabs.org
Samsongoddy Yes, perrie we will talk about swags
Samsongoddy I think I will have to write to system to setup one of these emails mentioned 
Sidhantb I feel a unique email id for SM isn't required since we already have a mailinglist and discussion forum.
Samsongoddy I am talking about making people to write to us
Samsongoddy and also to use it on SL accounts
Sidhantb Aah.
Samsongoddy my email is on twitter 
Samsongoddy samsongoddy AT sugarlabs dot org
Sidhantb Yes, it makes sense for our socials.
Samsongoddy also for our newletter
Samsongoddy we also plan to have some monthly post 
Samsongoddy using something like mailchimp
Sidhantb Yes.
Sidhantb Sounds good.
Sidhantb Are you familiar with the tim ferris mailing list?
Samsongoddy Nope
Samsongoddy What is it all about?
Sidhantb So Tim Ferris puts out an email to his subscribers every week.
Samsongoddy Oh I see 
Samsongoddy yes
Samsongoddy We need to be doing that too
Sidhantb But what's unique is that it's very short and answers only 5 questions every week/
Samsongoddy but we need content creators
Samsongoddy for that
Samsongoddy I think
Sidhantb We can have something like a developer spotlight.
Samsongoddy Any more questions / suggestions about SL ambassadorship?
Samsongoddy #swags
Sidhantb Do we have a budget for #swag?
Samsongoddy Yes
Samsongoddy kinda
Samsongoddy But we need to be clear on that
Samsongoddy marketing needs to come up with a plan and guidelines as to who creates, for what purposes, how it is distributed, by whom, and what the budget is.
Samsongoddy those were the words of walterbender 
Sidhantb Yes.
Perrie Agree
Samsongoddy So again like the designs 
Samsongoddy we need a plan
Samsongoddy guidelines
Samsongoddy who create the swags (Design team)
Samsongoddy purposes for it (outreach / ambassadors)
Samsongoddy who is it distributed (printing locally by request)
Samsongoddy by whom (members)
Samsongoddy And we need to come up with a budget for it 
Perrie Guidelines and designs too
Samsongoddy Yes
Samsongoddy So I think it will be cool to have some SL swags out
Samsongoddy for marketing purpose
Samsongoddy I have alot of Google swags
Perrie Designs can come in handy in GCI
Samsongoddy The swags itself should be self explanatory 
Samsongoddy about what SL is
Samsongoddy tools and community
Perrie We have some already designed. I’ll go through the ones we have too and see if we need more designs or update if need be
perrieWhat type of swags are we looking at? T-shirts, stickers
Samsongoddy See https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Marketing_Team/Swag
Perrie Anything else?
Samsongoddy I think we are good for today 
Samsongoddy So actions are 
samsongoddy#Calling for volunteers for doing outreach for SL
samsongoddy#Revisit and reviving SL ambassadorship program
samsongoddy#Rebirth of SL Social media accounts
samsongoddy#Creating email for SL marketing 
samsongoddy#Develop a plan for SL swags
Samsongoddy AM I missing anything?
Perrie The GCI tasks on guidelines for social media x design
18:48 samsongoddyI am unsure how to post the meetings
Samsongoddy any idea?

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