[Sugar-devel] Review Request of GSoC Proposal: Making a Beginner Guide

[James Cameron]

Good question, Tony.  It is for developers.  Self-serving.

I don't agree with the project at all.  I think it is make-work.  It
doesn't help the children that Sugar is focused on.

None of the mentors have made ongoing or material contributions to our
existing developer documentation.  Very few of them have made
contributions to Sugar or Sugarizer.

Still, I'd be happy to see it succeed, but the risks I've mentioned
before are significant, and such ambitious plans require good
evidence.

The proposal is well formatted and clear.  It's just the project
itself which seems improbable.

On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 02:41:16PM +0200, Tony Anderson wrote:
> Is this a 'beginner' in the community of developers or a beginning user of
> Sugar?
> 
> Tony
> 
> On Monday, 26 March, 2018 09:09 AM, Pratul Kumar wrote:
> 
>     *Hello,
>     Thanks for the guidance, reviews and feedbacks.
> 
>     Kindly help me with the answer to one of the questions of "You and
>     Community".
> 
>     Question:  If your project is successfully completed, what will its impact
>     be on the Sugar Labs community? Give 3 answers, each 1-3 paragraphs in
>     length. The first one should be yours. The other two should be answers from
>     members of the Sugar Labs community, at least one of whom should be a Sugar
>     Labs GSoC mentor. Provide email contact information for non-GSoC mentors.
>     [1]https://docs.google.com/document/d/
>     1Xzn-ub8pBCQuz9-RfltzHqDZqY7uZ2xF77MFP_9fKzw/edit?usp=sharing
>    
> 
>     Thanks,
>     Pratul Kumar
> 
>     On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 8:45 PM, Pratul Kumar <[2]pratulkumar1997 at gmail.com
>     > wrote:
> 
>         *
>         Hello,
> 
>         Thanks for providing feedback and guiding me in the right direction.
>         I have worked on it and tried to add them and make things bit more
>         refined.
> 
>         [3]https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Xzn-ub8pBCQuz9-
>         RfltzHqDZqY7uZ2xF77MFP_9fKzw/edit?usp=sharing
> 
>         Kindly have a look at it and if there is something which can be
>         improved, kindly let me know,
>         I will be more than happy to work on it.
> 
>         Regards,
>         Pratul Kumar
> 
>         On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 1:02 PM, James Cameron <[4]quozl at laptop.org>
>         wrote:
> 
>             G'day Pratul,
> 
>             Thanks for the opportunity to comment on your draft proposal.
> 
>             Your proposal suffers from lack of measurable controls for risks. 
>             In
>             general, you've added responses to the risks which are mostly
>             either
>             aspirational, hopeful, or procedural.  Some of the responses don't
>             address the risks.
> 
>             For reference, here is what I had previously written on these
>             risks;
> 
>             [5]http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/2018-February/
>             055030.html
> 
>             Please do not use HTML for the beginner guide.  Instead, please use
>             Markdown.  Markdown has a wider audience of authors.  HTML should
>             be
>             generated automatically.
> 
>             Please consider better controls for risk #3.  My post on 14th
>             February
>             gave some ideas.  Just claiming that you'd like to keep working on
>             the
>             project after GSoC ... doesn't seem probable.  It is aspirational.
>            
>             --
>             James Cameron
>             [6]http://quozl.netrek.org/
>        
> 
>         --
>         ​
>         Pratul Kumar | Sophomore LNMIIT | +91-8107525493
>        
>             GCI Mentor SugarLabs, Mentor & Beta Tester at Coursera, HKUST
>             University
>             Stanford Scholar Internship, Mozilla Club Captain LNMIIT, Head of
>             Developers Group HackerEarth
>              _ [7]LinkedIn [s] [8]Github _  [s] 
>        
> 
>     --
>     ​
>     Pratul Kumar | Sophomore LNMIIT | +91-8107525493
> 
>         GCI Mentor SugarLabs, Mentor & Beta Tester at Coursera, HKUST
>         University
>         Stanford Scholar Internship, Mozilla Club Captain LNMIIT, Head of
>         Developers Group HackerEarth
>          [s] [9]LinkedIn [s] [10]Github [s]  [s] 
>    
> 
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> References:
> 
> [1] https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Xzn-ub8pBCQuz9-RfltzHqDZqY7uZ2xF77MFP_9fKzw/edit?usp=sharing
> [2] mailto:pratulkumar1997 at gmail.com
> [3] https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Xzn-ub8pBCQuz9-RfltzHqDZqY7uZ2xF77MFP_9fKzw/edit?usp=sharing
> [4] mailto:quozl at laptop.org
> [5] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/2018-February/055030.html
> [6] http://quozl.netrek.org/
> [7] https://www.linkedin.com/in/pratul1997/
> [8] https://github.com/Pratul1997
> [9] https://www.linkedin.com/in/pratul1997/
> [10] https://github.com/Pratul1997
> [11] mailto:Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
> [12] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel

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