[Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Sugar on Fedora looking forward

[Kalpa Welivitigoda]

On Thu, Jul 12, 2018 at 7:52 AM James Cameron <quozl at laptop.org> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 09:35:47AM +0100, Peter Robinson wrote:
> > Hello All,
> >
> > This is intended to ask questions and seek feedback.
> >
> > I've not really had time to deal with Sugar for some time, but it also
> > doesn't tend to take up a lot of time so it's not been a major
> > problem, we glue it together when it breaks etc.
> >
> > Kalpa has done a good job keeping most of the Activities up to date.
> >
> > But there's a number of things that are getting to the point where
> > they'll need action or they'll break so I'd like to gather details
> > from the Sugar community what their plans are here to see if it's
> > worthwhile continuing the Fedora support of Sugar.
> >
> > 1) gstreamer 1.0 support in Activies. The 0.10 series is well and
> > truly dead and unmaintained, but there's a couple of key Activities
> > that still depend on it. Clock and Record are the two big ones here.
> > Are there any plans to move them to gst1?
>
> They were moved.  Check the release announcements and the tarball
> directories.
>
> http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/honey/Clock/Clock-20.tar.bz2
> http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/honey/Record/Record-200.tar.bz2
>
> > 2) GTK2 sugar-toolkit, again a number of Activities still haven't
> > moved to gtk3, any plans?
>
> Yes.  We have a contributor working on that now, so please make sure
> we know which ones Fedora think are still GTK+ 2.  Time critical.
>

I found the following packages in Fedora still not moved to GTK3.

sugar-analyze
sugar-calendario
sugar-castle
sugar-connect
sugar-countries
sugar-deducto
sugar-flipsticks
sugar-kuku
sugar-labyrinth
sugar-moon
sugar-paths
sugar-playgo
sugar-recall
sugar-record
sugar-view-slides
sugar-xomail

> > 3) eToys, we've not shipped this by default for some time, I plan on
> > retiring it and any of it's dependencies in Fedora 29. Good riddance
> > sugar-presence-service!
>
> I've no news on this one.  Best to contact Etoys project.
>
> > 4) This is the big one... python2. With python2 being EOL real soon
> > now is there any interest in moving to py3, I know there was some work
> > years ago to do some readiness here with the move to gtk3 but I don't
> > remember the details. Fedora is actively moving to python3 and has
> > been for some years, I think for at least 6 releases it's been
> > possible to run without py2 installed at all. Is this the nail in the
> > coffin for Sugar?
>
> Our port to Python 3 is going well.  We have good working code in pull
> requests and branches, and plan to merge it once we have the critical
> components complete.  Our plan is in the GitHub projects tab for the
> organisation.
>
> Your downstream transition plan can be one of;
>
> - package sugar-toolkit-gtk3 as both Python 2 and Python 3, so that
>   Python 3 activities can be packaged, and so that Python 2 packages
>   you have now need not be rushed into Python 3,
>
> - package sugar-toolkit-gtk3 as only Python 3, and make sure all your
>   Python 2 activity packages are either dropped or ported to Python 3.
>
> > Also with my note above about time and the points in between are there
> > still people interested in Sugar on Fedora? Anyone interested enough
> > to assist?
>
> I agree, downstreams need help, it's a big job to keep this
> maintained.
>
> >
> > Peter
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Kalpa Welivitigoda
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