[Sugar-devel] Sugar-devel Digest, Vol 112, Issue 21

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Since there's a Proposal for a communication switch, please also do
consider *Zulip*. I've been using it for a few months for The Girl Code and
while working on Zulip too last year and I quite liked it.

Regards,
Sidhant Bhavnani
http://sidhant.me/

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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Proposing a communication switch (James Cameron)
   2. Re: Proposing a communication switch (Walter Bender)
   3. Re: Introduction for GSoC (utkarsh shukla)
   4. Re: Introduction for GSoC (Glide)


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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2018 11:08:17 +1100
From: James Cameron <quozl at laptop.org>
To: sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] Proposing a communication switch
Message-ID: <20180219000816.GE9218 at us.netrek.org>
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On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 09:21:11PM +0000, D. Joe wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 07:37:03AM +1100, James Cameron wrote:
>
> > Slack and Matrix are also popular.

And I forgot to mention Riot.im

> Since it is several links deep now, I'll surface this point I made in
> similar discussions elsewhere, for Sumit's benefit:
> [...]
> My approach is that, if someone wants to try to make one of those bridges
> work, and is willing to put in the time and attention to do it, then I'm
OK
> with it. That said "putting in the time and attention to do it" requires a
> level of commitment to making it work and keeping it working we'd probably
> rather see devoted to other things. But if that's what one wishes to do
...
> <*shrug*>.

Agreed.  Also, putting time and attention to do it means to bring
along the rest of the community, and I don't yet see that happening.

Facts don't convince.

> This comes up often enough I have an essay draft sitting around about it
> all. For now, I'll just add this one new link I have to give some academic
> context to this discussion:
>
> https://flosshub.org/content/considering-use-walled-gardens-floss-project-
communication

Agreed.  Very interesting paper.  For Sugar Labs, we have the
segregation of multiple GitHub repositories which has led to a call
for a developer "dashboard" aggregator, and also the "walled-garden"
effect of GitHub pull-requests and issues which are not archived at
sugarlabs.org.  Design and development is segmented rather than
concentrated.  Another chat medium is effectively a proposal to
segment further.

Thread original poster might find an IRC client or persistent presence
tool more suited to their expectations; then document that tool for
others of like-mind.

--
James Cameron
http://quozl.netrek.org/


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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2018 21:21:06 -0500
From: Walter Bender <walter.bender at gmail.com>
To: James Cameron <quozl at laptop.org>
Cc: Sugar-dev Devel <sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org>
Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] Proposing a communication switch
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On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 7:08 PM, James Cameron <quozl at laptop.org> wrote:

> On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 09:21:11PM +0000, D. Joe wrote:
> > On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 07:37:03AM +1100, James Cameron wrote:
> >
> > > Slack and Matrix are also popular.
>
> And I forgot to mention Riot.im
>
> > Since it is several links deep now, I'll surface this point I made in
> > similar discussions elsewhere, for Sumit's benefit:
> > [...]
> > My approach is that, if someone wants to try to make one of those
bridges
> > work, and is willing to put in the time and attention to do it, then I'm
> OK
> > with it. That said "putting in the time and attention to do it" requires
> a
> > level of commitment to making it work and keeping it working we'd
> probably
> > rather see devoted to other things. But if that's what one wishes to do
> ...
> > <*shrug*>.
>
> Agreed.  Also, putting time and attention to do it means to bring
> along the rest of the community, and I don't yet see that happening.
>
> Facts don't convince.
>
> > This comes up often enough I have an essay draft sitting around about it
> > all. For now, I'll just add this one new link I have to give some
> academic
> > context to this discussion:
> >
> > https://flosshub.org/content/considering-use-walled-
> gardens-floss-project-communication
>
> Agreed.  Very interesting paper.  For Sugar Labs, we have the
> segregation of multiple GitHub repositories which has led to a call
> for a developer "dashboard" aggregator, and also the "walled-garden"
> effect of GitHub pull-requests and issues which are not archived at
> sugarlabs.org.  Design and development is segmented rather than
> concentrated.  Another chat medium is effectively a proposal to
> segment further.
>
>
There is a nice FOSS project I referred to the other day (actively
maintained) that could help with this:

https://publiclab.github.io/community-toolbox/


> Thread original poster might find an IRC client or persistent presence
> tool more suited to their expectations; then document that tool for
> others of like-mind.
>
> --
> James Cameron
> http://quozl.netrek.org/
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regards.

-walter

--
Walter Bender
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2018 17:03:42 +0530
From: utkarsh shukla <utkarsh858iitr at gmail.com>
To: sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] Introduction for GSoC
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Hi,
I am Utkarsh Shukla, a C.S. Sophomore at IIT Roorkee.
My special area of development is in javascript . Recently I helped my
on-campus student group SDSLabs to develop a p2p media streaming website
using vanilla WebRTC from scratch.
I am interested in SugarLabs organisation as it  specialises in JavaScript
"Applets" and web hosting.  I would like to contribute to SugarLabs via
GSoC.
Please help me to contribute to the projects, as to further work with the
org.
Thanks
Utkarsh Shukla Github: https://github.com/utkarsh858



On 18 February 2018 at 18:19, utkarsh shukla <utkarsh858iitr at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi,
> I am Utkarsh Shukla, a C.S. Sophomore at IIT Roorkee.
> My special area of development is in javascript . Recently I helped my
> on-campus student group SDSLabs to develop a p2p media streaming website
> using vanilla WebRTC from scratch.
> I am interested in SugarLabs organisation as it  specialises in JavaScript
> "Applets" and web hosting.  I would like to contribute to SugarLabs via
> GSoC.
> Please help me to contribute to the projects, as to further work with the
> org.
> Thanks
> Utkarsh Shukla Github: https://github.com/utkarsh858
>
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2018 14:21:52 +0200
From: Glide <abdulsamadaliyu17 at gmail.com>
To: utkarsh shukla <utkarsh858iitr at gmail.com>
Cc: sugar-devel <sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org>
Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] Introduction for GSoC
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Hello Utkarsh,

Glad to see you're interested in participating in our open source
organization.

Below are some useful links to hopefully get you started:

Sugar labs wiki for GSoC: https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Summer_of_Code

GSoC's full timeline so you can know exactly when to start sending in your
proposals: https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/how-it-works/#timeline

Here is the link to the list of projects available to work on  in this
year's GSoC: https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Summer_of_Code/2018


Warm welcome to the organization and good luck on GSoC 2018.

Best Regards,
Abdul

On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 1:33 PM, utkarsh shukla <utkarsh858iitr at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi,
> I am Utkarsh Shukla, a C.S. Sophomore at IIT Roorkee.
> My special area of development is in javascript . Recently I helped my
> on-campus student group SDSLabs to develop a p2p media streaming website
> using vanilla WebRTC from scratch.
> I am interested in SugarLabs organisation as it  specialises in JavaScript
> "Applets" and web hosting.  I would like to contribute to SugarLabs via
> GSoC.
> Please help me to contribute to the projects, as to further work with the
> org.
> Thanks
> Utkarsh Shukla Github: https://github.com/utkarsh858
>
>
>
> On 18 February 2018 at 18:19, utkarsh shukla <utkarsh858iitr at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>> I am Utkarsh Shukla, a C.S. Sophomore at IIT Roorkee.
>> My special area of development is in javascript . Recently I helped my
>> on-campus student group SDSLabs to develop a p2p media streaming website
>> using vanilla WebRTC from scratch.
>> I am interested in SugarLabs organisation as it  specialises in
>> JavaScript "Applets" and web hosting.  I would like to contribute to
>> SugarLabs via GSoC.
>> Please help me to contribute to the projects, as to further work with the
>> org.
>> Thanks
>> Utkarsh Shukla Github: https://github.com/utkarsh858
>>
>
>
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