[Sugar-devel] [SLOBS] GSoC is for coding projects

[Lionel Laské]

Struck out is not a good idea. Nothing explain that these projects are not
real GSoC projects. So nothing forbid students to do proposal on these
projects.
I suggest to move it on a "future project idea" page on the wiki to avoid
confusion.

"Involve some programming" is not enough for GSoC projects. It should be a
programming task. Some other projects on this page are not compliant in my
opinion:
- Making a Beginner Guide: It's about documenting, not coding.
- Sugar Labs Social: It's about marketing and integrating blog/forum tools,
not implementing a new feature or a new module of anything.
- Making a marketing animated website page of Sugar Labs: As the name
suggest it's marketing too. Developing a set of page with animation and
style sheets is not about coding, it's about design.

Re-read my question to GSoC guys; I've explicitly asked question about that
type of tasks.

           Lionel.


2018-02-14 22:59 GMT+01:00 Walter Bender <walter.bender at gmail.com>:

>
> On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 4:42 PM, Walter Bender <walter.bender at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I thought I struck out all the non-programming tasks... /me looks again.
>>
>
> Re-struck a couple of project. While I don't agree that some of these
> project ideas are high priority, I think everything that remains does in
> fact involve some programming.
>
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 4:40 PM, Lionel Laské <lionel.laske at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Most tasks are no longer struck out...
>>> I think it's unfair to let students write proposals about projects we
>>> will be force to ignore to comply to Google rules.
>>>
>>>          Lionel.
>>>
>>>
>>> 2018-02-03 21:14 GMT+01:00 Walter Bender <walter.bender at gmail.com>:
>>>
>>>> The non-coding tasks are struck out.
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Feb 3, 2018 at 3:13 PM, Lionel Laské <lionel.laske at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> Yesterday we had a discussion at SLOB meeting regarding possibility to
>>>>> submit GSoC projects without coding tasks (marketing, documentation,
>>>>> localization, ...).
>>>>> I asked a question regarding this point on the GSoC mentor mailing
>>>>> list.
>>>>>
>>>>> Following is the very clear answer from Cat Allman, member of the
>>>>> Google GSoC team. Shortly: "GSoC is about coding".
>>>>>
>>>>> So I suggest that we update our project list page [1] to be more
>>>>> compliant with these rule. Few projects are clearly not coding tasks today.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards from France.
>>>>>
>>>>>           Lionel.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> [1] https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Summer_of_Code/2018
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>>> From: Cat Allman
>>>>> Date: 2018-02-03 18:38 GMT+01:00
>>>>> Subject: Re: [GSoC Mentors] Non coding projects for GSoC ?
>>>>> Cc: lionel at olpc-france.org, Google Summer of Code Mentors List <
>>>>> google-summer-of-code-mentors-list at googlegroups.com>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Lionel,
>>>>>
>>>>> Summer of Code is indeed about coding. Our program for teens, Google
>>>>> Code-in, includes other kinds of open source contribution, but GSOC does
>>>>> not.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Cat
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Feb 3, 2018, 23:41 Lionel Laské <lionel.laske at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Vocabulary used on GSoC web site is mainly focused on developers:
>>>>>> "summer of code", "student developers", "programming projects", "start of
>>>>>> coding period", ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So I wondering if it's okay to propose projects for GSoC without
>>>>>> coding or with few coding. For example:
>>>>>> - Write an user documentation,
>>>>>> - Create a marketing website,
>>>>>> - Update a wiki,
>>>>>> - Do translation,
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks in advice for advices/answers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best regards from France.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>          Lionel.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
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