[Sugar-devel] logo dicussion

[Walter Bender]

On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 10:27 AM, Laura Vargas <laura at somosazucar.org>
wrote:

>
> 2017-09-14 8:52 GMT-05:00 Samuel Cantero <scanterog at gmail.com>:
>
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 8:32 AM Laura Vargas <laura at somosazucar.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> 2017-09-14 7:23 GMT-05:00 Walter Bender <walter.bender at gmail.com>:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 8:09 AM, Laura Vargas <laura at somosazucar.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2017-09-14 7:00 GMT-05:00 Samson Goddy <samsongoddy at gmail.com>:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sep 14, 2017 12:52 PM, "Laura Vargas" <laura at somosazucar.org>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2017-09-14 6:36 GMT-05:00 Samson Goddy <samsongoddy at gmail.com>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I didn't wanted to reply earlier because i wanted to be sure what
>>>>>>> the discussion was all about. I perfectly understand Sebastian worries. But
>>>>>>> as walter mention Sugar Labs was a spinoff of OLPC and that is why the logo
>>>>>>> is still present. Now, what i think we should do is to ask SLOBS if we want
>>>>>>> to make these changes, make a good logo, the present one from Sebastian is
>>>>>>> good but it is similar to Gnome logo. So we should calm them design a new
>>>>>>> one that if SLOBS approve the chnages.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As for me, leaving the XO logo from Sugar is a smart move to
>>>>>>> marketing, our goal is to make Sugar available to all users not just OLPC
>>>>>>> by doing that we should have Sugar OS logo to make things neutral.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sebastian, since you co-sign the agreement could you please take my
>>>>>>> suggestions and make things official by take it to SLOBS make design open
>>>>>>> for members to agree on a design because the current one for me is not
>>>>>>> acceptable.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Samson,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Old trademarked OLPC logo is gone now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you think the one proposed by Sebastian is "not acceptable" you
>>>>>> must explain your reasons. For me it is.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Very similar to Gnome logo
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I was chating here with my Gnome friends and we have come to a tag
>>>>> line:
>>>>>
>>>>> "To jump in one foot you must firts learn to stand up in two"
>>>>>
>>>>> She loved it!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> As I have said earlier, am all for a Sugar Marathon Design. You in?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sugar Marathon Design??
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We don't we do an Open Logo competition online and share with members
>>>>>> for our users to design good logo, reflecting what sugar is. Like how Sugar
>>>>>> Labs logo came alive.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Am all for open dynamics still I prefer collaborative dynamics rather
>>>>> than competitive ones.
>>>>>
>>>>> A Sugar Design Marathon can be done if it is the Board will, by asking
>>>>> all community members to synchronize for ~15 intensive days with a design
>>>>> team from active volunteers and contributors.
>>>>>
>>>>> I look forward to see Community working together productively.
>>>>>
>>>>> What do you think?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I think that (1) we should resolve the status of the XO icon before
>>>> rushing into anything and (2) it would seem that the role of SLOB would be
>>>> to ask the design team to do its job, not to do it for them.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> No offense Walter but I was asking Samson not you.
>>>
>>
>> What a childish and unpolite response.
>>
>
> ...
>
> Samuel,
>
> You are totally entitled your opinion.
>
>
> Samson,
>
> *Now that the feet are Sugar interface main icon the legal thing is
> resolved. *
>

Amazing. Your arrogance is beyond anything I have ever experienced. The
situation is anything but resolved. Have you not heard anything the rest of
us have been saying? Or does it not matter to you?

>
>
> If Community wants to support the Sugar Design Marathon to upgrade it I
> volunteer to help you lead the effort. I think we should start working on a
> formal proposal to present to SLOBs asap.
>
> Main objective proposed would be:
>
> - To define in a collaborative way the adoption of a new main icon for
> Sugar interface according to Sugar Labs acceptable License Policy
> <https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Licensing>.
>
> Specific tasks needed to do:
> - Debug all learning and marketing materials
> - Add yours here..
>
> Calendar proposed would be:
> Oct 1-15 2017
>
> Please confirm/unconfirm your interes and/or suggest changes to my
> proposal.
>

Again, as both a member of the oversight committee and the design team, I
urge you to engage the design team instead of taking more unilateral
actions. Of course, you and Samson are more than welcome to do what you
want, but I for one don't understand how you can claim to working as a
member of our community and then make statements like "No offense Walter
but I was asking Samson not you.". I thought I was still a member of the
community.

>
> Regards
>
> Laura
>
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> Laura V.
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>
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>
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Walter Bender
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