[Sugar-devel] logo dicussion

[Martin Abente]

I noticed that my PR review and merged by Ignacio, but it later was
reverted by Sebastian again. Looks like if I send another PR, this will
keep happening, and i just want to point out that this is VERY scary,
having one person unilaterally making these decisions.

This is wrong.

On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 9:22 PM, Martin Abente <
martin.abente.lahaye at gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 5:02 PM, Sean DALY <sdaly.be at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> In the past, OLPC was amenable to the use of the xo logo in Sugar, but
>> asked we not use it in marketing materials without a formal co-branding
>> licensing agreement. [1,2]
>>
>> The proposed feet logo is likely a violation of the GNOME Foundation
>> trademark, more info on their site [3].
>>
>
> If the feet logo could be a violation of the GNOME trademark, then lets
> revert it, until a proper replacement is found (and if its really needed,
> of course).
>
> https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar-artwork/pull/97
>
>
>>
>> Sean.
>>
>> 1. http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/iaep/2008-December/003059.html
>> 2. http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/iaep/2011-October/014245.html
>> 3. https://wiki.gnome.org/action/show/FoundationBoard/Resources
>> /LicensingGuidelines?action=show&redirect=Foundation%2FLic
>> ensingGuidelines
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 2:33 PM, Walter Bender <walter.bender at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 2:25 PM, Laura Vargas <laura at somosazucar.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Am attaching the previous brand icon Trademark just for reference.
>>>>
>>>
>>> The question is more complex than whether or not OLPC received a
>>> trademark. Was it ever applicable to our use in Sugar? Is it still valid?
>>> Note that "a failure to enforce a trademark by monitoring the mark for
>>> misuses will result in a weakening of the mark and loss of distinctiveness,
>>> which can lead to a loss of the trademark." [1] Sugar Labs has been using
>>> xo-computer.svg and has never, as far as I know, received any notification
>>> that we are infringing. I don't know the answers to these questions, which
>>> is why I asked that our lawyer look into it.
>>>
>>> [1] https://www.justia.com/intellectual-property/trademarks/enforcement/
>>>
>>> regards.
>>>
>>> -walter
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2017-09-13 13:16 GMT-05:00 Laura Vargas <laura at somosazucar.org>:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Alex,
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes Sugar user interface needed to urgently get rid of any Trademark
>>>>> at all. We can breath now :D
>>>>>
>>>>> If you don't like the feet feel free to propose a new option or a
>>>>> dynamic for our Community to accomplish a new one collaboratively.  I
>>>>> really like the cute little finger color's.
>>>>>
>>>>> See how it looks here:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://laboratoriosazucar.org/azucarizador/
>>>>>
>>>>> There is still an urgent need for 111.1 Sugar release including this
>>>>> change.
>>>>>
>>>>> Am not sure whether or not Sugar Labs has currently a release Manager.
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe if we propose a "Christmas Edition" for 111.1 I'll get to
>>>>> inspire some heroes to help us out.
>>>>>
>>>>> It would be ideal, if we can also add some other critical features
>>>>> required like the elimination of the male/female initial question.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>>
>>>>> Laura
>>>>>
>>>>> 2017-09-13 12:06 GMT-05:00 Alex Perez <aperez at alexperez.com>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On this subject, I may have missed this, but where did the (IMHO
>>>>>> awful) "feet" icon come from, who approved its use, and was the board
>>>>>> involved with the decision? It seems a fairly central branding decision.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Walter Bender <walter.bender at gmail.com>
>>>>>> Wednesday, September 13, 2017 5:49 AM
>>>>>> Regarding https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar-artwork/pull/96 it
>>>>>> would be helpful to get Tony's feedback. Can you please contact him as our
>>>>>> liaison to the SFC?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> regards.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -walter
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Laura V.
>>>>> * I&D SomosAZUCAR.Org*
>>>>>
>>>>> “Solo la tecnología libre nos hará libres.”
>>>>> ~ L. Victoria
>>>>>
>>>>> Happy Learning!
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>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>> Laura V.
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>>>>
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