[Sugar-devel] [SLOBS] [IAEP] URGENT action needed

[Samson Goddy]

On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 3:08 PM, Laura Vargas <laura at somosazucar.org> wrote:

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> 2017-08-11 8:54 GMT-05:00 Avni Khatri <avni at kidsoncomputers.org>:
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>> On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 9:05 AM, Samuel Cantero <scanterog at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
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>>> mind-boggling indeed. SL has been in GSoC and GCI for years. I'm not a
>>> board member but +1 for sure.
>>>
>>>
>> +1
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> Hello Avni,
>
> I agree with you it should be clearly defined who in Sugar Labs is
> responsible for Google's collections.
>
> Resources in Sugar Labs are limited and historically we had lost a lot of
> opportunities because uncollected grant, please research on Trip Advisor's
> case when lack of clear responsibility for collection let to an
> unbelievable lack of collection of US$40.000 for internationalization's
> projects.
>
> Responsibility isn't clear at this point.
>
> About the Financial Manager role, it was created by the Board on July's
> decisions last year, still they never appointed anyone for the role.
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> In the meanwhile, Adam has continue serving as the *representative for
> Sugar Labs* with the Software Freedom Conservancy since last period.
> Still, this role doesn't account for any financial responsibility according
> to current Governance
> <https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs/Governance>.
>
> I'm sorry we still don't have a wiki page that would easily resolve any
> financial question to the community. It is a tendency I'm hoping to revert
> by proposing the
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> *Motion 2017-08-10: Sugar Labs Financial Manager to have a monthly
> compensation.*
>
First i see no reason for this decision, after the comments from walter's
and i quote.

"Google has been consistently paying us for almost 10 years. The fact that
we have not yet seen the $7000 from GCI is an SFC interface issue."

Sugar Labs not receiving $7k from GCI was a problem from SFC. This
discussion is unhealthy for this motion because it serves as a distraction.

SFC don't issue travel advance, but they are willing to do so based on this
comment.
"Unfortunately, We are waiting for someone from Sugar Labs to reply to
approve the expense.  I don't know why they haven't replied."

I have been asking for travel advance for over 8 days now, after i was
chosen to attend the mentor's summit in SFO. I feel this is a problem for
later and shouldn't be discuss now due to the reasons for getting a US B-2
visa.

I see you have given "-1" for reasons i think you feel is right or should
be pointed out which is fine. But i think SL Financial Manager while this
motion is still valid is absolutely wrong.

I want SL to have an Official Financial Manager but not with this
discussion.

Regards
Samson G

>
> Regards,
> Laura V
>
>
>
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>>> On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 9:02 AM, Walter Bender <walter.bender at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
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>>>>
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>>>> On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 8:24 AM, Laura Vargas <laura at somosazucar.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Walter,
>>>>>
>>>>> -1 since there are still US$7.000 from last Google's programs we
>>>>> participated still uncollected and currently we have no way of assuring we
>>>>> will collect Google's funds this time.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Google has been consistently paying us for almost 10 years. The fact
>>>> that we have not yet seen the $7000 from GCI is an SFC interface issue.
>>>>
>>>> The fact that we are about to jeopardize Samson's opportunity to
>>>> represent SL at the GSoC summit is mind-boggling.
>>>>
>>>> -walter
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2017-08-10 15:44 GMT-05:00 Walter Bender <walter.bender at gmail.com>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I presume we need a motion and a vote on this. Time is of the
>>>>>> essence, so please respond ASAP.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Motion: Samson Goddy has been selected as a Sugar Labs representative
>>>>>> to the Google Summer of Code mentor summit. He has requested a travel
>>>>>> advance to cover the costs of his visa application. The advance, including
>>>>>> wire fees comes to $US 627.05. This motion is to approve the travel
>>>>>> advance. (As additional background, Google will be covering up to $2200 in
>>>>>> travel expenses for two representatives to attend the summit. Since our
>>>>>> other representative is local to the SF area, the bulk of that money would
>>>>>> be available to cover Samson's travel, so the net impact on SL funds will
>>>>>> be negligible.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> regards.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -walter
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>>>> From: Accounting at Software Freedom Conservancy <
>>>>>> accounting at sfconservancy.org>
>>>>>> Date: Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 4:16 PM
>>>>>> Subject: URGENT request for Sugar Labs to approve of US$627.05
>>>>>> advance for Goddy for GSoC Mentor Summit (was: Is Goddy actually requesting
>>>>>> $160 ?)
>>>>>> To: sugar at sfconservancy.org
>>>>>> Cc: Martin Michlmayr <gsoc at sfconservancy.org>, Samson Goddy <
>>>>>> samsongoddy at gmail.com>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sugar Labs PLC,  please urgently page down to the all caps section
>>>>>> below.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Samson,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Samson Goddy wrote at 08:52 (EDT) on Wednesday:
>>>>>> > it has been 5 days, i already made request to
>>>>>> sugar at sfconservancy.org for
>>>>>> > funding. Since it takes up to 15 working days(3 weeks) for the
>>>>>> embassy to
>>>>>> > accept appointment for interview.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > I haven't heard anything from both parties.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Unfortunately, We are waiting for someone from Sugar Labs to reply to
>>>>>> approve the expense.  I don't know why they haven't replied.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> SUGAR LABS PLC: By my calculation, Samson is asking for this:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   FOR TRAVEL TO GET A VISA, AND FOR THE VISA FEES ITSELF, SAMSON
>>>>>> GODDY ASKS
>>>>>>   FOR A CASH ADVANCE OF TRAVEL EXPENSES (TO COME TO GSOC MENTOR SUMMIT
>>>>>>   2017).  The totals are as follows:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   If we use western union, N202,350 = $570 (rate set by WU)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   If we use wire, he's asking for 561+(561*.05)+13+25 = US$627.05 to
>>>>>> be wired.
>>>>>>                                        wire fees
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If Sugar Labs PLC replies with approval before Sunday night
>>>>>> US/Eastern, we
>>>>>> can likely process a payment by wire on Monday.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We don't typically use Western Union, and it would be substantial
>>>>>> effort for
>>>>>> us to do that, so we'd like Sugar to approve the additional wire fees
>>>>>> as
>>>>>> it will make payment more rapid for Samson and easier for Conservancy.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Samson, your request was a bit ramble-y, so if I gleaned the wrong
>>>>>> totals
>>>>>> above, please correct them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Samson, in preparation for Sugar Labs PLC hopefully approving this
>>>>>> request,
>>>>>> could you let me know if the wire instructions I used for you before
>>>>>> are
>>>>>> still correct, and if not, send me new ones?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Bradley M. Kuhn
>>>>>> Distinguished Technologist of Software Freedom Conservancy
>>>>>>  |------> & also, de-facto Bookkeeper for the moment
>>>>>> Pls support Conservancy!: https://sfconservancy.org/supporter/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Walter Bender
>>>>>> Sugar Labs
>>>>>> http://www.sugarlabs.org
>>>>>> <http://www.sugarlabs.org>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Laura V.
>>>>> * I&D SomosAZUCAR.Org*
>>>>>
>>>>> “Solo la tecnología libre nos hará libres.”
>>>>> ~ Laura Victoria
>>>>>
>>>>> Happy Learning!
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>>>>> #WeCanDoBetter
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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