[Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Sugar on Surface Pro (Microsoft Partnership)

[Dave Crossland]

Hi

I agree completely

On Apr 2, 2017 7:52 PM, "Samuel Greenfeld" <samuel at greenfeld.org> wrote:

> But what is a more proper port to Windows going to give us beyond what
> Lionel has already done by including Sugarizer in pretty much every major
> app store (including Microsoft's and Apple's)?
>
> There is a cost associated with porting applications and their ongoing
> maintenance.  If Sugar is not going to receive a benefit, however measured,
> that outweighs the cost, then what is the point?
>
> Something similar already has happened with the original XO laptop
> series.  While it may be possible to port newer operating systems/Linux
> kernels/etc. to them, no one has quantified how many active users this
> could help, and no one has taken up the mantle of actually doing the work.
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 2, 2017 at 7:36 PM, Tony Anderson <tony_anderson at usa.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Having Sugar available on Windows 10 is important to establish its
>> reality as an alternative educational platform for educators. Educators in
>> Rwanda and the Philippines accept Windows as the software for vocational
>> preparation to the extent that the XO is not to be used for secondary
>> education because Sugar is for primary school children.
>>
>> Ideally, Sugar would be a normal Windows program with a large file in the
>> C: partition in the manner of Wubi. Sugar alongside Windows would be
>> helpful but less effective with educators with their Windows blinders on.
>>
>> Tony
>>
>>
>> On 04/03/2017 01:26 AM, Samuel Greenfeld wrote:
>>
>> The short answer is yes; there are any number of ways (HTML app,
>> ActivePython .NET port, WSL, GTK for Windows, etc.) to port Sugar to
>> Windows.
>>
>> Each has its own strengths and weaknesses.
>>
>> The big question is if any of them are worth it.
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 2, 2017 at 1:40 AM, Yatin Maan <yatinmaan1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey,
>>> I understand that this is an April fool's joke but with introduction on
>>> "Windows subsystem for Linux (WSL)"[1] I was wondering whether we might be
>>> able to directly run sugar on Windows 10.
>>>
>>> Someone here [2] even managed to get Unity and Xfce on WSL so I think it
>>> might actually be possible to run Sugar.
>>>
>>> [1] - https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/wsl/2016/07/08/bash-on-ubun
>>> tu-on-windows-10-anniversary-update/
>>>
>>> [2] - https://github.com/microsoft/bashonwindows/issues/637
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Yatin
>>>
>>> On Sun 2 Apr, 2017, 3:10 AM Samuel Greenfeld, <samuel at greenfeld.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> No; with all the thoughts of porting XOs to Fedora.next and having to
>>>> look into ActivePython and such, I never got a chance to look into a proper
>>>> Sugar .NET conversion.
>>>>
>>>> Besides with Sugarizer, we do not need a third language to maintain all
>>>> the activities in.
>>>>
>>>> (It's amazing what you can do in Visual Studio within five minutes.)
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Apr 1, 2017 at 5:32 PM, Samson Goddy < <samsongoddy at gmail.com>
>>>> samsongoddy at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Look nice, that is awesome. Did you finish it?
>>>>
>>>> On Apr 1, 2017 10:19 PM, "Samuel Greenfeld" <samuel at greenfeld.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Looking around, I found the following code online:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.greenfeld.org/1April2017/SugarNET.png
>>>>
>>>> It doesn't seem to do much more than my previous port did [*], but it
>>>> at least compiles.
>>>>
>>>> [*] http://www.greenfeld.org/1April2011/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Apr 1, 2017 at 3:48 PM, Samson Goddy <samsongoddy at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Lolz i guess, i am the king of pranks. Happy new month guys, hope you
>>>> are enjoying your day.
>>>>
>>>> Samson
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Apr 1, 2017 5:20 PM, "Walter Bender" < <walter.bender at gmail.com>
>>>> walter.bender at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I  think Samson was looking at the calendar  (April 1) when he posted
>>>> this.
>>>>
>>>> On Apr 1, 2017 7:46 AM, "Love Mehta" < <lovemehta.me at gmail.com>
>>>> lovemehta.me at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Finally all the hard work is paying off. Soon, the time will come, when
>>>> guys from Apple will be contacting Walter Sir. Let's keep up the good work.
>>>>
>>>> Greetings,
>>>> Love
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Apr 1, 2017 8:12 PM, "Utkarsh Tiwari" < <iamutkarshtiwari at gmail.com>
>>>> iamutkarshtiwari at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Samson,
>>>>
>>>> Great news! This venture will definitely help us gain more popularity
>>>> and reach more Windows users
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Utkarsh Tiwari
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, 1 Apr 2017 at 20:08 Samson Goddy < <samsongoddy at gmail.com>
>>>> samsongoddy at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hello all,
>>>>
>>>> According to [1], Microsoft wants to make a deal with Sugar Labs to
>>>> include Sugar on their Surface devices as an educational platform for
>>>> windows users. They contacted Walter, so he asked me to forward it to the
>>>> community.
>>>>
>>>> [1]https://goo.gl/4Ka694
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>>>> Utkarsh Tiwari
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