[Sugar-devel] The future of Sugar on XO-1s

[Dave Crossland]

Hi

I want to return to this older thread because of James Cameron's comment in
https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar/pull/688#issuecomment-222393275 :

On the assumption that Sugar Labs is dropping support for XO-1, I'll close
this pull request. Thanks for your time!


But I understood from Tony and Adam in this thread that Sugar Labs _should_
keep support for the XO-1 as a goal. Adam said,

In Haiti XO-1s will be dominant across many schools for years and year to
come.  Similar to Tony's description, but these typically will be using
32GB SD cards -- thankfully these are incredibly affordable. The
resilience/repairability of the XO-1 laptops is the absolutely fascinating
part.


I think this goal is wise because it ensures that Sugar runs well on the
cheapest computers - like the $10 getchip.com/pages/pocketchip and $5
https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/raspberry-pi-zero - and ensures
performance is only better on later XO models and 'regular'
desktops/laptops.

I edited https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Vision_proposal_2016 to reflect
this.

Cheers
Dave


On 5 April 2016 at 17:04, James Cameron <quozl at laptop.org> wrote:

> On Tue, Apr 05, 2016 at 07:37:45AM -0400, Dave Crossland wrote:
> >
> > Hi James
> >
> > On 1 April 2016 at 15:06, James Cameron <[1]quozl at laptop.org> wrote:
> >
> >     Let me spin you a tail.
> >
> >     The myth of forward human development doesn't apply to software.
> >
> >     This is a parade of people, several walking abreast, beside a slow
> >     moving flat bed truck, all holding on to a ribbon.
> >
> >     The truck is the world, and the internet as it stands.
> >
> >     The first person, next to the truck, are our learners or users.
> >
> >     The second person is Sugar Labs; with our activities, and Sugar.
> >
> >     The third person is distributions of Linux, like Fedora and Ubuntu,
> >
> >     The fourth person are the hardware vendors, like commodity suppliers
> >     or OLPC.
> >
> >     The fifth person are the Linux kernel developers.
> >
> >     As the procession walks beside the truck, the ribbon is not always
> >     straight.
> >
> >     Some people walk faster than others.  Some let go of the ribbon and
> >     others take their place.
> >
> >     I'm glad you're here, you're bringing a new perspective.
> >
> >     But the ribbon is actually toilet paper, so the pressure to keep up,
> >     while real, doesn't get felt, instead the paper breaks.
> >
> >     Do not target a rapidly diminishing enthusiastic group, or the future
> >     users will suffer.
> >
> > I'm sorry, I didn't fully understand you here at the last line. You had
> said
> > earlier,
> >
> > >     for the future of Sugar Labs, they should be concentrating on
> > >     later designs than one from 2007 that is no longer available and
> > >     rapidly dying from old age.
> >
> > So you mean, it would be unwise for Sugar Lab's vision/mission/strategy
> for the
> > next 3-5 years to focus on supporting the rapidly diminishing (yet
> > enthusiastic) group of XO owners, and focus on the future users who are
> not XO
> > owners?
>
> You might target this group of XO-1 owners and become a closed
> community into which all communications are judged against suitability
> for the majority (which would then be XO-1 owners).
>
> It would feel good!  [warning, sarcasm in this paragraph]
>
> I'm loath to battle the laws of physics, 'cause I know who wins.
>
> --
> James Cameron
> http://quozl.netrek.org/
>



-- 
Cheers
Dave
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