[Sugar-devel] GSoC weekly meeting

Tony Anderson tony_anderson at usa.net
Mon May 16 03:11:30 EDT 2016


The home view patch is intended to 'reverse' that decision. The original 
idea that activities start new from the home view and are resumed from 
the Journal is clear and easy to understand. In many classrooms, users 
are surprised when they launch an activity and find it not at the main 
screen but in the middle of some other person's work. I have had 
teachers ask students to launch Browse only to have some embarassed when 
it plays music.

The design discussion on the backup is at 
https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar-server_Journal_backup.

The combination of a school server and Sugar is a system in which both 
parts must work together. As I understand it there are
three environments for Sugar: standalone, with an active internet 
connection, and with a school server and no or limited internet access.
The Sugar on the Ground is intended to support the third environment.

Originally, OLPC deployment was standalone with a laptop-laptop network 
for collaboration. However, it was realized that much more could be done 
in a deployment with a school server to provide access to some of the 
content available on the internet. Unfortunately Sugar did not work 
closely with Martin Langhoff to make for a well-integrated system.

The keys are handled by registration. No change is intended. Rsync is 
the current backup scheme but it is not appropriate to the requirement. 
The wiki describes the intent of the change in detail. AFIK, there is no 
more requirement for local administration than is required by the 
current system.

Tony

On 05/15/2016 05:22 PM, Sebastian Silva wrote:
> Hi Utkarsh, Tony,
> I am very glad the coding period of GSoC is about to start! I am
> thrilled with expectation of improving Sugar.
>
> As you might've guessed I missed the GSoC meeting because I had the
> wrong time (I seem never to be able to keep up with EDT/EST times - we
> should always post times in UTC). Aparently official meetings will start
> this Friday in any case. You can always find me or a proxy bot with my
> name that will notify me of messages at #sugar. Stay in the channel long
> enough and I might be able to respond.
>
> I read the backlog [1] and was very glad that you both made it to the
> meeting and started coordinating with Sam because he is likely to be the
> person to review and approve the patches Utkarsh sends, and also with
> Walter who ultimately has the final decision on UI-touching features.
>
> [1] http://meeting.sugarlabs.org/sugar-meeting/2016-05-13
>
> I am concerned the "home view" patch will reverse one design decision of
> Sugar (resume journal items by default). I don't think it stands a
> chance to pass because of this, so I would suggest to focus on something
> else. Tony, since all of Utkarsh's proposals stem from your ideas on the
> GSoC page, would you be so kind as to start a design discussion about
> them or support Utkarsh in these discussions? For instance the backup
> feature will require some discussion (does the user get to configure
> it?). I suggest keeping it "as light as possible" on server
> configuration, for instance, using or at least supporting ssh rsa keys
> (or even user/pass) and rsync. It is not realistic to expect every
> school to have a competent school server administrator or even a proper
> server, but any linux box would serve for backups if merely using ssh+rsync.
>
> Utkarsh, will you start a blog for short weekly posts about your
> advances? Thanks
>
> Also, let's copy sugar-devel in all our communication, we want to have
> the community in the loop.
>
> Regards,
> Sebastian
>
> El 13/05/16 a las 05:00, Tony Anderson escribió:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have been traveling and out of touch since Sunday. I only knew about
>> a meeting of the font project and that Walter had proposed a weekly
>> meeting but have not seen anything about when those meetings are to
>> start. Is this another meeting for the three of us? If there is a
>> meeting, when and where?
>>
>>
>> Tony
>>
>> On 05/13/2016 08:26 AM, Sebastian Silva wrote:
>>> Hi guys,
>>> Will you be there today in 6½ hours?
>>>
>>> Last time the meeting took place in the #sugar-meeting Freenode IRC
>>> channel.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Sebastian
>>> .
>>>
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