[Sugar-devel] List of activities on ASLO

[Sebastian Silva]

Hi Tony,
Possibly hundreds of thousands of users have the Sugar Network
installed in their XO laptops. When, if, they possibly connect to the
Internet, thanks to it, we hear from them from time to time. We've
heard from 30K+ of them. It's really a project in a different scope
than the deployments you work with. We seeked to have the broadest
impact but now we are hoping to dig deeper by living in the rainforest
and founding what is, in practical terms, a school.

I'm not saying you need to reuse our code or even use the SN API.
I'm just saying web scrapping is complex when the simpler solution is
to dump the data itself from the database.

If you want shell access to this machine or a database dump, don't
hesitate to ask me or any other infrastructure team member (e.g. thru
systems at lists.sugarlabs.org team mailing list).

Regards,
Sebastian
Sebastian Silva
http://somosazucar.org/



2016-03-12 17:32 GMT+08:00 Tony Anderson <tony_anderson at usa.net>:
> Hi, Sebastian
>
> I have tried to follow the Sugar Network project, but I have never gotten a
> good enough understanding to see its benefits. Unfortunately for a long time
> it was a shell without content. Then it appears to be bound to internet
> access which really makes it unusable in the deployements I work with. At
> one time you talked about a sneakernet approach to email which I think is a
> critical need - but nothing seemed to come of it.
>
> I don't understand why ASLO doesn't support Chris Leonard's requirement. The
> use of the addon number adds one more level of indirection, but it should
> be simple for ASLO to provide a url which returns an index of addons and
> activity names. What I did was to write python code that creates this
> missing list
> of addons, sugar activity names, and version numbers (the version number on
> the activity page which is often not the most current). The code needs some
> tweaking to deal with 'hidden' versions more recent than the one on the
> page. There is also a need to find the github location of the activity. One
> drawback of the migration to github is that the activities are under several
> different owners folders. According to the python code there are not 567
> activities (however,
> about 100 are the gcompris activities which Aleksey implemented some years
> back. Sadly, they no longer work. It is simpler to install the GCompris
> bundle in Gnome and use a wrapper to launch in Sugar which at least gives us
> access to the most recent versions of the various activities.
>
> Tony
>
>
>
>
> On 03/12/2016 05:08 PM, Sebastian Silva wrote:
>>
>> Hi Tony,
>> I find we often we do similar things with different approach. This is
>> always good as I think it confirms we have similar observations from the
>> field (from accross the globe!).
>>
>> From 2011 to 2014 Alsroot and I, developed the Sugar Network, with
>> UI/concept design and also resource planning from Laura.
>> The goal was to broaden access / replace the ASLO Library (among other,
>> more ambitious goals).
>> For this, among other things, Alsroot developed an API that would allow to
>> query (and feed!) the ASLO Library... eventually even replace it.
>>
>> The docs for the API are here:
>> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Network/API
>>
>> For instance, it is possible to get the list of activities thus:
>> http://node.sugarlabs.org/context?type=activity&offset=0
>>
>> Change the offset to get all 470 entries, hard limit on server. I don't
>> think this is synchronizing with ASLO but it was designed to do so.
>>
>> We could not spark interest either with Sugar Labs or with any other
>> deployment, and eventually the Ministry of Education of Peru lost interest
>> in supporting the project. However I would be very happy if Alsroot's
>> obssesively polished work could be used for much more. In Peru this
>> continues to be used and deployed (and visible with the web frontend at
>> http://network.sugarlabs.org/ ). Laura continues to monitor and admin the
>> contents provided by the children, as well as monitor statistics. I have
>> stopped developing it because I see direct way to deploy a better user
>> experience (yet). However the dream of a Sugar Doers Network lives on.
>>
>> A short intro (spanish only) to the intended usage (with Sugar shell
>> integration) is here:
>> http://www.dailymotion.com/embed/video/xrapcp
>> (this is an early version 0.2 - last one was 0.9).
>>
>> A revisiting of these ideas should be a priority for Sugar Labs, IMHO.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Sebastian
>>
>>
>>
>> El 12/03/16 a las 00:57, Tony Anderson escibió:
>>>
>>> Hi, Chris
>>>
>>> I put together a process to do that some months ago. I can give you a
>>> working part of it which will give you two critical items:
>>> the title of the activity and the addon where it is found.
>>>
>>> First run the collector.py. This will access activities.sugarlabs.org and
>>> download six web pages giving 100 activities each (except the last), for a
>>> total
>>> of 567 activities. This will appear as aslo1, ..., aslo6. Next run
>>> scraper.py. This uses beautifulsoup to scrape the six web pages giving six
>>> collections,
>>> collection1, ..., collection6. Each line gives the addon and title of an
>>> activity. The scraper.py program does not access the network. You may need
>>> to install
>>> beautifulsoup to run the scraper.py program.
>>>
>>> The original collected more information from each activity with a goal of
>>> building a csv file that could be used to record information like the size
>>> of the
>>> activity, the most recent version, whether po is supported, whether gtk+3
>>> is supported, whether it is a sugar-web or python activity, and whether it
>>> uses
>>> gstreamer 0.1 or 1.0 and so on.
>>>
>>> Tony
>>>
>>> On 03/12/2016 10:22 AM, Chris Leonard wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Can someone with systematic access to ASLO do a data dump for me?  Any
>>>> format will do (txt, csv, xls, ods, etc.)
>>>>
>>>> I am interested in reviewing all known activities (at least those in
>>>> ASLO) for 1i8n/L10n and investigating further to see if we can
>>>> implement i18n/L10n where it does not exist.  I would also like to
>>>> check on presence of repo links. I know this was only recently
>>>> requested, but I might as well check on it as I'll need it for
>>>> i18n/L10n follow up.
>>>>
>>>> I've been updating:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Translation_Team/Pootle_Projects/Repositories
>>>>
>>>> data fields of interest
>>>>
>>>> Activity name
>>>> Activity number
>>>> Activity version (latest)
>>>> Author(s) name
>>>> Author(s) number
>>>> Repo link (if available)
>>>>
>>>> Thanks in advance for any assistance.
>>>>
>>>> cjl
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