[Sugar-devel] Current status of collaboration work

[Martin Abente]

Hey Sam,

I checked your PR but I think I found a simpler way [1] to handle this. The
logic goes like this:

1. assume you have tubes.
2. if everything goes OK, then you do have tubes.
3. but, if tubes creation fails, and the reason is lack of support, then
you don't have tubes (sort of detection), and let process to continue.

This achieves the exact same thing, and does not require new config values.

What do you think?

Martin.

Refs
[1] https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar-toolkit-gtk3/pull/297

On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 6:05 PM, James Cameron <quozl at laptop.org> wrote:

> On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 02:37:20PM -0300, Martin Abente wrote:
> > @Sam:
> >
> >   • Using GSettings is definitely a decent workaround instead of going
> for
> >     detection, I checked your PR and I will send some comments, but we
> will
> >     have to push it for as a feature freeze exception / Bug Fix.
> >   • I don't agree we should add it to the toolkit yet, still too early
> to set
> >     API on stones, but lets make a good use of that Wrapper of yours.
> Thanks
> >     for making it available.
> >   • Collaboration should be transparent for Activities, and since Tubes
> is no
> >     longer available in at least one scenario (jabber), we can't really
> >     depending on it anymore.
> >
> > @Tony:
> >
> >   • As Sam explained, this is not something _we_ control. Telepathy
> dropped
> >     Tubes years ago. There is no way to "workaround" the fact that Tubes
> in
> >     gone and we gotta move to something else, but for now we will also
> keep
> >     Tubes for those who can still use it and at least be able to do the
> >     transition.
> >
> > @Gonzalo:
> >
> >   • Thanks for the feedback, you are right, collaboration is hard to
> test, so
> >     we can't rush here.
> >
> > @James C.:
> >
> >   • Telepathy developers knew Sugar was using still it, I even heard they
> >     warned us in a GUADEC conference years ago, I also heard they
> apologized in
> >     advanced.
> >   • I am against introducing one deprecated piece of Telepathy code into
> Sugar
> >     code, simply because we can barely catch up with our own code base
> and it
> >     would be even worse if we adopt that code.
> >   • Aside from that, Walter and Sam tests show that there are many cases
> where
> >     we can simply migrate other channels. It will take longer, but is
> the right
> >     investment IMHO.
> >   • The Tubes issue is just as critical as any other "we can't catch up
> with
> >     upstream" issue but, this time, we are trying not to ignore it.
> >   • Any comments regarding the use of a GSettings entry to re-enable
> Tubes
> >     support (and leave it disabled by default)?
> >   • Funny picture.
>
> No worries, thanks for taking the decisions.
>
> >
> > @Walter:
> >
> >   • I agree, lets move forward.
> >
> > @Jonas:
> >
> >   • I hope so too.
> >
> > Martin.
>
> --
> James Cameron
> http://quozl.netrek.org/
>
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