[Sugar-devel] Sugar-Server enhancement

[Manash Raja]

@ Tony, the GUI changes have been reverted to the original "Register /
Register again" buttons. :)


On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 9:29 AM, Tony Anderson <tony_anderson at usa.net>
wrote:

> Jerry,
>
> I apologize for the word absurd. That was emotional. I should have used
> the 24 hour rule.
>
> The backup capability is limited to the XO since it is based on its
> serial-number. If may become applicable to SOAS by providing a generated
> serial-number for non-XO platforms.
>
> "Please tell me that this is not being deployed, and you are just
> comparing old versions."
>
> My point was only to show that ds_backup has been a part of Sugar since
> before SugarLabs, but yes it is being deployed.
>
> Of course, I am free to 'roll' my own images. However, I use what I have
> from Sugarlabs (currently 13.2.5), adding capabilities that I believe are
> needed by deployments. This same process applies to xsce (currently xsce6)
> as well.
>
> Tony
>
>
>
> On 04/18/2016 10:59 AM, Jerry Vonau wrote:
>
>> Hi Tony,
>>
>> On April 17, 2016 at 9:06 PM Tony Anderson <tony_anderson at usa.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi, Dave
>>>
>>> It is absurd for reasons I have specified the first time James made this
>>> statement.
>>>
>> Please don't use language such as 'absurd' please, I would personally find
>> that offensive if it were directed towards me or my ideas. You are not
>> gaining anything by doing that, just cutting down a skilled developer.
>>
>>
>> The two scripts are in /usr/bin. They are invoked by the
>>> installed Sugar image.
>>>
>> That 'sugar' image was assembled by somebody who used the OLPC supplied
>> rpms, and are only available on the XOs, not on SoaS or to my knowledge
>> anywhere else.
>>
>> The scripts are enabled by
>>> /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/jarabe/The status is specified in
>>> /home/olpc/.sugar/defaults. I have in front of me an XO-1 with Build 85
>>> (Sugar 0.82.1). If has the two scripts in /usr/bin.
>>>
>>>      ^^^^^^^^
>> Please tell me that this is not being deployed, and you are just comparing
>> old versions.
>>
>>
>>> This version used a file config in /home/olpc/.sugar/default (pre-dating
>>> gconf, let alone gsetting). This file contains:
>>>
>>> [Server]
>>> backup1 = SHC84201B0A at schoolserver.linuxtag:backup .
>>>
>>> The real problem is not the absurdity of claiming that ds_backup is not
>>> part of Sugar but that the statement attempts to close community
>>> discussion. I grant it may not be a capability important to James, but
>>> it is to me. I have great respect for James Cameron's technical
>>> capabilities. I can also understand if he does not feel that this
>>> feature scratches his itch (or serves the needs of his employer).
>>> However, this does not entitle him to impose his judgment on the
>>> community.
>>>
>>> You are always free to roll your own image or alter preexisting images in
>> the fashion that you do now to add that functionality back if it
>> disappears. OSBuilder is your friend.
>>
>> Jerry
>>
>>
>>
>>> Tony
>>>
>>> On 04/18/2016 08:54 AM, Dave Crossland wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Tony
>>>>
>>>> On 14 April 2016 at 04:43, Tony Anderson <tony_anderson at usa.net
>>>> <mailto:tony_anderson at usa.net>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>      However this is the second time he has claimed that the backup
>>>>      does not have anything to do with Sugar. An absurd position.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Perhaps, but as a fellow newbie, it is not obvious to me why this
>>>> position is absurd. Since it seems important for people to understand,
>>>> perhaps you could explain it on the wiki or developer documentation
>>>> somewhere? :)
>>>>
>>>>      James is excellent technically, but very new to the community and
>>>>      with limited understanding of the history or field use of the
>>>>      systems.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> That's also my impression
>>>>
>>>>      He probably is not aware that OLPC before the Sugar splinter
>>>>      proposed to actually build a hardware school server.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Since I was very marginally involved in the OLPC community in 2007 I
>>>> do remember this, and I see the https://github.com/XSCE/xsce codebase
>>>> is very actively recently :)
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Cheers
>>>> Dave
>>>>
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