[Sugar-devel] Samson's proposal to SLOBs

[Tony Anderson]

James,

I am not sure how NIH fits. I am completely new to the SLOBs
and have had very little involvement with the translations program. I got
assigned this task by the SLOBs at my first meeting in February.

My point, clearly, is that this proposal needs to be evaluated by the 
TCM, in the
context of its value to the overall program. I am not judging the 
proposal, but pointing
out aspects that I think need to be addressed.

Tony

On 04/06/2016 02:24 PM, James Cameron wrote:
> Sounds like an NIH, not invented here, response.  Very negative.
>
> If there are concerns, engage an independent local auditor to do due
> diligence on the proposal.
>
> On Wed, Apr 06, 2016 at 01:23:59PM +0800, Tony Anderson wrote:
>> It would be nice to give Chris Leonard a chance to be involved in
>> this decision.
>>
>> According to Samson, Schlumberger deployed 3000 XO laptops as part
>> of a SEED program which
>> has been discontinued. The laptops were given to individual students
>> and so are no longer used at any of the
>> three schools initially involved.
>>
>> He has been collecting some of these XOs for use in training
>> sessions which he is offering.
>>
>> His description has identified two essential needs: two standard
>> laptops for Samson and Ibiam and money
>> to connect to the internet ($250 per month).
>>
>> The raises some questions:
>>
>>      Is there a workplace available where the team could meet to work
>> on the project? Clearly an internet contract will
>> provide access to only one location.
>>
>>      Can some of these XO laptops be recovered/recycled. The owners
>> are now in their late teens and probably wanting to use
>> smartphones or standard laptops. They may be willing to sell them
>> for a relatively small amount given that the local demand for XOs
>> is probably negligible. These could be refurbished and deployed
>> either to support a local hackerspace or to supply enough for one
>> class at a local school.
>>
>>      Samson discusses localization of Sugar and 38 Sugar activities
>> to six African languages. The proposed cost of the first exceeds
>> $6000.
>> It is likely that the completion of six languages per this proposal
>> will use all of the available funds earmarked for localization.
>>
>>     Samson intends to apply for admission to a university and so may
>> not be able to manage this proposal to its completion.
>>
>> The proposal does not indicate how many XOs in deployments will
>> benefit from the localization. There is a scenario in which we spend
>> $40,000 which
>> only results in updating files on translation.sugarlabs.org.
>>
>> I have to agree with Caryl and Adam's concern that the available
>> funds get the most mileage. I also share Lionel's concern that the
>> funds not
>> be spent on localization of specific languages. Fundamentally,
>> vetting these proposals is an important part of the TCM job.
>>
>> Tony
>>
>> On 04/06/2016 12:25 PM, James Cameron wrote:
>>> I've reviewed the proposal.  I like it.  I've no further questions.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Apr 05, 2016 at 03:01:44PM +0100, samson goddy wrote:
>>>> Thank you very much Laura for the help you've giving me about my project in
>>>> Nigeria. Also i also grateful to Walter and Chris for their support too. I have
>>>> been really down last week(Sick) but i am getting on my feet now. So i did
>>>> update the proposal to reduce the prices for the languages. here are the links
>>>> to the excel [1]https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resid=A02A6B155E984772!452&
>>>> authkey=!AE8LFLFOt_Zhi04&ithint=file%2cods Then the origin document which is
>>>> attached to this mail.
>>>>
>>>> Also as much i will like to wait till the translation manager, I intend to do
>>>> this project starting from April so that i can be done before my 2 SAT tests.
>>>> So i would like if SLOBs can vote via email waiting to the next meeting will do
>>>> me no good. This is a favour i am asking from SLOBs.
>>>>
>>>> Samson Goddy
>>>>
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>>>> From: laura at somosazucar.org
>>>> Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2016 18:47:26 +0800
>>>> Subject: Fwd: FW: Samson's proposal to SLOBs
>>>> To: samsongoddy at gmail.com; sora at unleashkids.org; tim at timmoody.com;
>>>> lionel at olpc-france.org; samsongoddy at hotmail.com
>>>> CC: tony at olenepal.org; canoe.berry at yahoo.com; cbigenho at hotmail.com;
>>>> cjlhomeaddress at gmail.com; godiard at sugarlabs.org; nicestep at gmail.com;
>>>> tch at sugarlabs.org; walter at sugarlabs.org; sebastian at fuentelibre.org;
>>>> iaep at lists.sugarlabs.org
>>>>
>>>> Hi Samson,
>>>>
>>>> As promised, I have requested volunteers to continue with the Translations/
>>>> Localization Committe, so we will be able to help you get the proposals in good
>>>> shape to be consider by the board for appoval.
>>>>
>>>> So to start, it will be me, Sora and Tim, as they have confirmed their
>>>> intention to continue in the Translations/Localizations Committe and help out
>>>> with the proposals.
>>>>
>>>> So, I am forwarding them cc to IAEP, the documentation we have.
>>>>
>>>> Sora, Tim,
>>>>
>>>> Here I'm forwarding the first draft from the Localization Contractor Template
>>>> that was prepared. It contemplates the translation of 40 Sugar Projects to 6
>>>> native languages.
>>>>
>>>> I made some suggestions, but basically we ended up with a per/language
>>>> proposal, that shows additional information, like responsible party per task
>>>> and activities to be done in the time line. Am attaching the SpreadSheet.
>>>>
>>>> According to your experiences, I'm asking for your help to upgrade this two
>>>> documents, as they may become the model for others to follow.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you both for joining forces in the spirit of International fraternity,
>>>> peace and cultural exchange.
>>>>
>>>> Bessings for all.
>>>>
>>>> Laura V
>>>>
>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>> From: samson goddy <[2]samsongoddy at hotmail.com>
>>>> Date: 2016-03-25 2:53 GMT+08:00
>>>> Subject: FW: Samson's proposal to SLOBs
>>>> To: Laura Vargas <[3]laura at somosazucar.org>
>>>>
>>>> ━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━
>>>> From: [4]samsongoddy at hotmail.com
>>>> To: [5]cjlhomeaddress at gmail.com
>>>> CC: [6]walter at sugarlabs.org; [7]calla at media.mit.edu; [8]cbigenho at hotmail.com
>>>> Subject: RE: Samson's proposal to SLOBs
>>>> Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 17:45:05 +0100
>>>>
>>>> ━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━
>>>> From: [9]samsongoddy at hotmail.com
>>>> To: [10]cjlhomeaddress at gmail.com
>>>> CC: [11]walter at sugarlabs.org
>>>> Subject: Samson's proposal to SLOBs
>>>> Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 17:43:16 +0100
>>>>
>>>> Hello Guys,
>>>>
>>>>    i am done with the proposal and i will be presenting it to SLOBs for the next
>>>> meeting 1st of April. So i want you guys to please review it before the date.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>> Samson Goddy
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Laura V.
>>>> I&D SomosAZUCAR.Org
>>>>
>>>> IRC kaametza
>>>>
>>>> Happy Learning!
>>>>
>>>> References:
>>>>
>>>> [1] https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resid=A02A6B155E984772!452&authkey=!AE8LFLFOt_Zhi04&ithint=file%2cods
>>>> [2] mailto:samsongoddy at hotmail.com
>>>> [3] mailto:laura at somosazucar.org
>>>> [4] mailto:samsongoddy at hotmail.com
>>>> [5] mailto:cjlhomeaddress at gmail.com
>>>> [6] mailto:walter at sugarlabs.org
>>>> [7] mailto:calla at media.mit.edu
>>>> [8] mailto:cbigenho at hotmail.com
>>>> [9] mailto:samsongoddy at hotmail.com
>>>> [10] mailto:cjlhomeaddress at gmail.com
>>>> [11] mailto:walter at sugarlabs.org
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