[Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Save as feature

[Sam Parkinson]

Hi Utkarsh,

I find the save as an interesting feature.  From my knowledge, it was 
previously built into Sugar, however it was removed due to it annoying 
people.  I don't know the exact reasoning, but here is what I think:

* When does somebody quit and activity?  Is it the right time to be 
asking them to title and describe it?
   - When the bell rings and the student want to go to Lunch.  Not the 
right time to ask to save stuff.
   - When the teacher wants to move on to an different activity.  This 
is defiantly not the right time - the "save as" feature is acting in 
opposition with the teacher
   - Those are the 2 most common times that I can think of.  Remember 
this is for learners.
   -> Therefore this is a bad time to ask this
   -> Therefore we will annoy people

* Will we get good quality titles and descriptions?
   - No, people are rushed and inconvenienced by the modal popup.  It 
stole their computer.
   ->  They are not in a good mindset to write titles.

We also see many other services migrating away from the traditional 
"save as" dialog on exit.  Eg, Google Docs uses an approach the same as 
Sugar rather than a "save as" dialog.  They set it to a default titles 
("Untitled document"), but you can then change that name eaisly.

Maybe we need think about what the problem this feature solves?  
Whatever it is, "save as" probably won't work.  We need to find an 
actual solution to user problems.

Thanks,
Sam


On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 9:38 PM, Utkarsh Tiwari 
<iamutkarshtiwari at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>    Whenever we start an activity from homeview, it gets registered in
> the Journal (through datastore.write()).
> 
>  I have inspected the activity.py file but there is someplace else
> besides activity.py where the datastore is being modified(activity
> instance is being added). I need to figure this out to implement the
> "Save As" feature to intervene the datastore.write() call so that user
> could provide the activity name. Could anyone please  point me in the
> right direction?
> 
> Thanks,
> Utkarsh Tiwari
> 
> On 3/22/16, Tony Anderson <tony_anderson at usa.net> wrote:
>>  Hi,
>> 
>>  I am not sure what you are asking. Read the excellent comment in
>>  activity.py. There are set_canvas, read_file, and write_file among 
>> other
>>  examples of functions in activity.py directly accessible by the
>>  sub-class. Normally, that activity is referenced by 'self'.
>> 
>>  Tony
>> 
>>  On 03/22/2016 12:02 AM, Utkarsh Tiwari wrote:
>>>  Hi,
>>> 
>>>  Is there any way to get the currently active
>>>  activity(sugar3.activity.activity -> class Activity()) instance ?
>>> 
>>>  I need this access to call a function of "Activity class" in
>>>  activity.py to activate a feature I have integrated.
>>> 
>>>  Thanks,
>>>  Utkarsh Tiwari
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