[Sugar-devel] [SoaS] SOAS

[Sam P.]

Yeah, collaboration is broken in newer (20+? IDK) fedora versions.  That is
because of telepathy api changes.  We will attempt to fix this in the
coming release (0.108/1.0?).  That seems to the the consensus about the
coming release.

Thanks,
Sam

On Tue, 8 Sep 2015 7:04 pm Peter Robinson <pbrobinson at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi David,
>
> Sorry, this seem to have fallen through the cracks.
>
> > Iain referred me to a Fedora community where LinuxliveUSB installer was
> recommended and it works just fine. It also installs a Linux emulator for
> Windows Virtualbox and I found I could run SOAS beautifully in that way.
> That is very convenient for my purposes (a quick lead in to Sugar). I also
> found few problems booting USB sticks and SD cards installed using
> LinuxLiveUSB, on one machine it seems to hang but others it is fine. So it
> seems the installer was my issue.
>
> I've never seen or heard of the above, I've also never used
> VirtualBox, glad it works for you.
>
> > Regarding collaboration, if we have a few PC computers on the same WLAN
> running SOAS, can we expect them to see each other and collaborate in
> neighbourhood view, without a server (ie. in the same fashion as XOs on an
> ad-hoc network)? I seem to recall doing that with early versions of SOAS.
> If not, is there a simple/light way to enable collaboration/presence
> service on a local server sufficient to allow a few local SOAS machines to
> collaborate?. I am familiar with XS developments (up to 0.7) but in the
> schools in Vanuatu we'll be using gateway servers we have developed
> ourselves based on Debian (Jessie 8).
>
> I believe there's an issue with recent versions on collaboration, I
> don't remember the exact issues, maybe one of the sugar devs can
> answer the reasons and when it's expected it can be fixed.
>
> Peter
>
> > Best,
> >
> > David Leeming
> > Solomon Islands
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: sugar-devel-bounces at lists.sugarlabs.org [mailto:
> sugar-devel-bounces at lists.sugarlabs.org] On Behalf Of Peter Robinson
> > Sent: Wednesday, 22 July 2015 10:58 a.m.
> > To: Development of live Sugar distributions
> > Cc: Sugar-dev Devel; Iain Brown Douglas
> > Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] SOAS
> >
> > Hi David,
> >
> > I'm the SoaS maintainer.
> >
> >> I want to demonstrate SOAS to teachers in Vanuatu. I would like to be
> more useful, but actually don't have the luxury of time to research these
> arcane technical issues in which I am not an expert. I just want to know,
> is there a version of SOAS that is properly tested and known to work? I
> have used SOAS many times before (years ago) without any problems. Which
> version is stable and will boot without errors and not hang on use?
> >
> > The lastest stable version is available here:
> > https://spins.fedoraproject.org/en/soas/
> >
> >> Could be hardware? I will try with another flashdrive. Is 2GB of
> persistent storage too little/too much?
> >
> > 2Gb should be fine.
> >
> > Ask here on the SoaS list if you've got any other queries or issues.
> >
> > Peter
> >
> >> David Leeming
> >> Solomon Islands
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: sugar-devel-bounces at lists.sugarlabs.org [mailto:
> sugar-devel-bounces at lists.sugarlabs.org] On Behalf Of Iain Brown Douglas
> >> Sent: Tuesday, 21 July 2015 7:52 p.m.
> >> To: David Leeming
> >> Cc: 'Sugar-dev Devel'
> >> Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] SOAS
> >>
> >> Hi David,
> >>
> >> From what you say, you already did a search for your error message.
> >>
> >> Does this Fedora forum answer cover your issue?
> >> http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=301945
> >>
> >> I have been working with the script livecd-iso-to-disk and it works
> >> fine.
> >>
> >> I am working on SoaS Loader, here is a link to the work in progress.
> >>
> >> http://soas-loader.readthedocs.org/
> >>
> >> Good luck, and thanks for putting time in trying to demonstrate SoaS :)
> >>
> >> Iain
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, 2015-07-21 at 10:51 +1100, David Leeming wrote:
> >>> Hello,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I have familiarity with Sugar since working with OLPC from 2008, but I
> >>> haven’t been active in these communities for some time. I’m just
> >>> refreshing myself on current status of Sugar with a view to
> >>> introducing teachers to it in a forthcoming workshop in Vanuatu. We’ll
> >>> be using tablets as well as PCs so I have familiarised myself with
> >>> Sugarizer. I then intended to introduce the wider world of Sugar
> >>> conveniently with SOAS.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> So I have downloaded both the 32-bit and 64-bit iso files and verified
> >>> their hashes. I also download the latest version of USB Live
> >>> Installer. I formatted a fairly new 16GB USB with FAT32 and installed
> >>> SOAS on it leaving 2000Mb of persistent memory. The USB stick is a
> >>> “SanDisk Cruzer Facet 16GB”.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Immediately I run into problems. When booting (on a fairly recent
> >>> Toshiba i7 laptop) it stops with “vesamenu.c32 not a com32r image”. On
> >>> pressing Tab key I do not see “Live” as an option, but it does start
> >>> with the option linux0. Sugar boots and I can use it for a few
> >>> minutes, I tried Speak and Turtle Art for instance, but within a short
> >>> time it hangs and needs a hard boot.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I repeated the whole process with the 32-bit (verified) iso file and
> >>> same problem. I’ll give this problem only a few hours as that is all I
> >>> have. But I would like to know what are the requirements for a
> >>> reliable repeatable experience with SOAS, as it says on the website,
> >>> to get Sugar into Vanuatu schools.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> David Leeming
> >>>
> >>> Solomon Islands
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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