[Sugar-devel] GSoC projects

[Sean DALY]

I'm certainly willing to try again. However the community (starting with
the Oversight Board) needs to support the initiative - technical work is
involved on our side even with a partner, including work I probably don't
even know about. And SL's immediate focus is on mentoring GSoC projects.

I will ask for an agenda item in the next Oversight Borard meeting or the
one after.

Sean.


On Sat, Mar 21, 2015 at 2:49 PM, Iain Brown Douglas <
iain at browndouglas.plus.com> wrote:

> Hi Sean,
>
> Is it a thing that you would contemplate now, to approach Oracle (for
> corporate sponsorship, perhaps) but  in particular about what support
> they would offer Sugarlabs towards our targets?
>
> Would there be a view against this idea?
>
> Regards,
>
> Iain
>
> On Sat, 2015-03-21 at 11:37 +0100, Sean DALY wrote:
> > Yes, of course, which is why my idea was to get assistance. To be
> > clear, I'm in favor of whatever solution could ease installation.
> > Choosing a keyboard layout from scratch can be quite tricky for the
> > uninitiated, the Virtualbox list is long with many variants
> > (
> https://straymarcs.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/8.-select-keyboard.png)
> although an autodetect button is available. If the teacher or journalist
> has to configure language and keyboard a second time when booting the VM as
> you mention, that qualifies as jumping through hoops. My goal was to work
> with Oracle on a bundled installer+VM executable (which requires a matrix
> by host OS in any case) to make the install as seamless as possible. I cite
> Firefox because they propose a pancake button installer by probing the
> website client (or analyzing the user agent, or whatever they do), with the
> full matrix only 1 click away.
> >
> >
> > Sean
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Mar 21, 2015 at 2:06 AM, Gonzalo Odiard
> > <godiard at sugarlabs.org> wrote:
> >         We can ask language and keyboard in the first boot as we do
> >         with age and gender.
> >         I think create and maintain a complete matrix of VMs will be
> >         more difficult.
> >
> >
> >         Gonzalo
> >
> >         On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 7:39 PM, Sean DALY
> >         <sdaly.be at gmail.com> wrote:
> >                 We need to do everything possible to reduce Sugar's
> >                 installation and unfamiliarity barriers. Not everyone
> >                 speaks English and can find and configure the Sugar
> >                 control panel on their first encounter with Sugar. A
> >                 keyboard mismatched with what appears on the screen
> >                 merely gives the impression it doesn't work right. VM
> >                 hosts could have a number of different keyboards - for
> >                 example I have a Macbook with French locale Azerty
> >                 layout
> >
> >                  (flipped numbers row, common accents) and a Dell
> >                 education netbook with Belgium locale keyboard. Look
> >                 at the Firefox "Systems & Languages" download matrix
> >                 (https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/all/), for a
> >                 Sugar VM with bundled installer an interested teacher
> >                 or journalist would just need to choose the
> >                 appropriate download.
> >
> >
> >                 I feel the huge sizes of these images would be more of
> >                 a problem, but not much we can do there.
> >
> >
> >                 Sean
> >
> >
> >
> >                 On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 9:35 PM, Gonzalo Odiard
> >                 <godiard at sugarlabs.org> wrote:
> >                         > My idea at the time was to approach Oracle
> >                         for corporate sponsorship
> >                         > of Virtualbox images, in particular hosting
> >                         a workflow to automate
> >                         > prebuilt images by host language/keyboard,
> >                         however some community
> >                         > members were aghast at the idea.
> >
> >
> >                         Is still needed have a vm by host
> >                         language/keyboard?
> >                         Or we can ask to the user using the same code
> >                         from the Sugar control panel?
> >
> >
> >                         Gonzalo
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >                         On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 5:18 PM, James Cameron
> >                         <quozl at laptop.org> wrote:
> >                                 On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 06:26:34PM
> >                                 +0100, Sean DALY wrote:
> >                                 > My idea at the time was to approach
> >                                 Oracle for corporate sponsorship
> >                                 > of Virtualbox images, in particular
> >                                 hosting a workflow to automate
> >                                 > prebuilt images by host
> >                                 language/keyboard, however some
> >                                 community
> >                                 > members were aghast at the idea.
> >
> >                                 Maybe now is a better time.  Maybe
> >                                 those aghast at the idea haven't
> >                                 noticed yet.  ;-)
> >
> >                                 --
> >                                 James Cameron
> >                                 http://quozl.linux.org.au/
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >                         --
> >                         Gonzalo Odiard
> >
> >                         SugarLabs - Software for children learning
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >         --
> >         Gonzalo Odiard
> >
> >         SugarLabs - Software for children learning
> >
> >
> >
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