[Sugar-devel] SugarLabs.org new website - looking for opinions/ideas!
Tymon Radzik
dwgipk at gmail.com
Fri Feb 27 19:44:24 EST 2015
Ok. I agree Sam made significant change to page loading time. However he's
UI isn't innovative and attractive and requires changes and improvements,
which have been already decided with Walter. That's why I hope his pull
request isn't merged before we complete our work. It would be nice if Sam
will help us in developing our UI than creating separate one.
Regards
On Sat 28 Feb 2015 at 01:40 James Cameron <quozl at laptop.org> wrote:
> Okay, I hear what you're saying ... but you have to have a good reason
> than wanting to go a bit more innovative; it's not your desires that
> matter, it's the good outcomes for Sugar Labs that matters.
>
> And acceptance of a PR is up to the maintainer. Which isn't me,
> thankfully.
>
> On Sat, Feb 28, 2015 at 12:31:32AM +0000, Tymon Radzik wrote:
> > Yeah, but his concept of UI is radical different than ours. We want to
> go bit
> > more innovative. I dont have anything against PRs, but I think that's one
> > created by him shouldn't be merged before our works finish.
> > On Sat 28 Feb 2015 at 01:27 James Cameron <[1]quozl at laptop.org> wrote:
> >
> > I do not see it as separate, I see it as a useful contest of ideas.
> > That's what pull requests are for.
> >
> > In this case, it has provided a substantial load and render benefit.
> >
> > On Sat, Feb 28, 2015 at 12:23:50AM +0000, Tymon Radzik wrote:
> > > I think Sam shouldnt work on separate project, rather help us in
> > improving
> > > exisiting one. And disscuis so radicial UI changes with us...
> > > On Sat 28 Feb 2015 at 01:22 James Cameron <[1][2]quozl at laptop.org>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > Yes, that version loads faster.
> > >
> > > 15.855 seconds for load and render.
> > >
> > > 2.824 seconds for render only.
> > >
> > > But on your version, the video embedding element "Google
> Code-In |
> > > Promotional video on Sugar" is beyond the visible area, only
> the
> > > sugarlabs title on black background is visible.
> > >
> > > Scrolling down by one page using the '×' (multiply) game key
> incurs a
> > > rendering delay;
> > >
> > > 1. if the key is pressed immediately, 9.744 seconds,
> > >
> > > 2. if the key is pressed after ten seconds, 2.864 seconds,
> > >
> > > Also, if the page is scrolled to position the video embedding
> element
> > > in the centre of screen, then use forward key to move to
> another
> > site,
> > > then use back key to move back, rendering time is 14.008
> seconds.
> > >
> > > Your version loads much faster on my desktop, despite the extra
> > > latency of HTTP over SSL (https).
> > >
> > > On Sat, Feb 28, 2015 at 12:02:50AM +0000, Sam P. wrote:
> > > > I think the load speed is caused by Tymon's site using
> basically
> > every
> > > > JavaScript and css library that has ever been published.
> Does this
> > > version
> > > > load faster @Quozl? [1][2][3]https://activities-2.
> sugarlabs.org/
> > > www-sugarlabs/
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, 28 Feb 2015 10:30 am James Cameron <[2][3][4]
> > quozl at laptop.org>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Same test XO-1 laptop, same URLs, without clearing cache.
> > > >
> > > > [3][4][5]http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon/ ... load and
> render
> > 35.343
> > > seconds,
> > > > (previously 31 seconds),
> > > >
> > > > [4][5][6]http://sugarlabs.org/ ... load and render 6.064
> > seconds,
> > > (previously
> > > > 5 seconds),
> > > >
> > > > [5][6][7]http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon/ ... render only,
> 14.080
> > seconds,
> > > > (previously 14 seconds).
> > > >
> > > > [6][7][8]http://sugarlabs.org/ ... render only, 4.400
> seconds,
> > > (previously 3.6
> > > > seconds),
> > > >
> > > > My conclusion is that there has been no change to load
> and
> > render
> > > > since last test on the XO-1.
> > > >
> > > > Perhaps the video embedding element is the cause?
> > > >
> > > > Provide a page with and without the video embedding
> element for
> > > > comparison?
> > > >
> > > > Three seconds on a modern system is still a surprisingly
> long
> > time
> > > > compared to the original site. This is a regression.
> Can't
> > you
> > > > include those separate files into the main file?
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 07:11:30PM +0000, Tymon Radzik
> wrote:
> > > > > Hello,
> > > > >
> > > > > Thank you all for your opinions. We'll try to consider/
> > implement
> > > them.
> > > > James
> > > > > Cameron - thank you for your data, they were useful.
> We've
> > hade
> > > > significant
> > > > > changes to page's layout and performance. Please check
> it
> > now.
> > > We've done
> > > > some
> > > > > tests and page loads not longer than 3 seconds. UI is
> more
> > cleaner
> > > now.
> > > > Please
> > > > > take a look on this website - [1][7][8][9]http://
> > tools.pingdom.com/fpt
> > > /#!/
> > > > csIQSO/
> > > > > [8][9][10]sugarlabs.org/~tymon
> > > > >
> > > > > Again, waiting for your suggestions!
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > > Tymon
> > > > >
> > > > > pt., 27 lut 2015 o 12:24 użytkownik samson goddy
> <[2][9]
> > > > [10][11]samsongoddy at hotmail.com>
> > > > > napisał:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > ━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━
> ━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━
> > > > > From: [3][10][11][12]samsongoddy at hotmail.com
> > > > > To: [4][11][12][13]quozl at laptop.org
> > > > > Subject: RE: [Sugar-devel] SugarLabs.org new
> website -
> > looking
> > > for
> > > > opinions
> > > > > /ideas!
> > > > > Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2015 12:20:15 +0100
> > > > >
> > > > > Hello, I have a little addition to this website,
> But i am
> > not a
> > > web
> > > > > designer but the "Activity Section" is suppose to
> change.
> > When
> > > i mean
> > > > > change, If a user is wanting to download an
> activity, he/
> > she
> > > will be
> > > > > scrolling down to actually find what he or she
> want and
> > that's
> > > no a
> > > > good
> > > > > idea. What if the activity section have a drop
> down menu
> > > pattern or
> > > > some
> > > > > like this from this Project mudra site
> [5][6][12]http://
> > > > [13][14]www.projectmudra.com/
> > > > > it will be faster. Also the head or menu should
> have a
> > drop
> > > down
> > > > pattern.
> > > > > The color is kinda brights for the eyes. Since we
> will be
> > > porting to
> > > > this
> > > > > new site what if every thing should be in drop down
> > pattern
> > > just like
> > > > the
> > > > > [7][13][14][15]http://www.projectmudra.com/ site.
> > Remember i am
> > > only
> > > > suggesting.
> > > > >
> > > > > Best Regards
> > > > > Samson Goddy
> > > > >
> > > > > > Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2015 09:30:09 +1100
> > > > > > From: [8][14][15][16]quozl at laptop.org
> > > > > > To: [9][15][16][17]dwgipk at gmail.com
> > > > > > CC: [10][16][17][18]sugar-devel@
> lists.sugarlabs.org
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] SugarLabs.org new
> website -
> > > looking for
> > > > > opinions/ideas!
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I did that the first time, and I repeated it
> now. There
> > was
> > > no
> > > > > > real difference.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 10:10:54PM +0000, Tymon
> Radzik
> > wrote:
> > > > > > > Hello,
> > > > > > > please try to visit [1][11][17][18][19]http://
> > sugarlabs.org/
> > > ~tymon
> > > > instead of [2]
> > > > > http://
> > > > > > > [12][18][19][20]people.sugarlabs.org/~tymon ,
> then
> > there won't
> > > be any 304
> > > > > redirects. Thank you
> > > > > > > for other suggestions I will take a look on
> them
> > tomorrow.
> > > > > > > Tymon
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > czw., 26 lut 2015 o 22:57 użytkownik James
> Cameron
> > <[3][13]
> > > > > [19][20][21]quozl at laptop.org>
> > > > > > > napisał:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > It took a long time to load. See Firefox
> developer
> > console
> > > > > > > screenshots of query load times:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > [4][14][20][21][22]http://dev.
> laptop.org/~quozl/
> > 2015-02-27/
> > > > tymon-load-times.png
> > > > > > > [5][15][21][22][23]http://dev.
> laptop.org/~quozl/
> > 2015-02-27/
> > > > original-load-times.png
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I suggest you check yourself the load times
> without
> > cache,
> > > and
> > > > reduce
> > > > > > > the number of servers that have to be
> resolved. Also
> > > identify
> > > > the
> > > > > > > network speeds of the target market, and how
> they
> > will
> > > perceive
> > > > load
> > > > > > > times.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The black text on saturated colours was very
> hard to
> > read,
> > > > because
> > > > > > > there was not enough contrast between the text
> and
> > the
> > > > background.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The animation of the titles seems unnecessary
> and
> > > distracting.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Some of the introduction is repeated word for
> word in
> > the
> > > About
> > > > > > > section.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The style of the embedded activities element is
> > > inconsistent with
> > > > the
> > > > > > > surrounding page style.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Given recent discussions, there's probably an
> > overemphasis
> > > on
> > > > history
> > > > > > > of Sugar, or the history of computing.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Otherwise, good progress.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > James Cameron
> > > > > > > [6][16][22][23][24]http://quozl.linux.org.au/
> > > > > > > ______________________________
> _________________
> > > > > > > Sugar-devel mailing list
> > > > > > > [7][17][23][24][25]Sugar-
> devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
> > > > > > > [8][18][24][25][26]http://lists.sugarlabs.org/
> > listinfo/
> > > sugar-devel
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > References:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > [1] [19][25][26][27]http://
> sugarlabs.org/~tymon
> > > > > > > [2] [20][26][27][28]http://people.
> sugarlabs.org/
> > ~tymon
> > > > > > > [3] mailto:[21][27][28][29]quozl at laptop.org
> > > > > > > [4] [22][28][29][30]http://dev.
> laptop.org/~quozl/
> > 2015-02-27/
> > > > tymon-load-times.png
> > > > > > > [5] [23][29][30][31]http://dev.
> laptop.org/~quozl/
> > 2015-02-27/
> > > > original-load-times.png
> > > > > > > [6] [24][30][31][32]http://quozl.linux.org.au/
> > > > > > > [7] mailto:[25][31][32][33]
> > Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
> > > > > > > [8] [26][32][33][34]http://lists.
> sugarlabs.org/
> > listinfo/
> > > sugar-devel
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > James Cameron
> > > > > > [27][33][34][35]http://quozl.linux.org.au/
> > > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > > Sugar-devel mailing list
> > > > > > [28][34][35][36]Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
> > > > > > [29][35][36][37]http://lists.
> sugarlabs.org/listinfo/
> > sugar-devel
> > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > Sugar-devel mailing list
> > > > > [30][36][37][38]Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
> > > > > [31][37][38][39]http://lists.
> sugarlabs.org/listinfo/
> > sugar-devel
> > > > >
> > > > > References:
> > > > >
> > > > > [1] [38][39][40]http://tools.
> pingdom.com/fpt/#!/csIQSO/
> > sugarlabs.org/
> > > ~tymon
> > > > > [2] mailto:[39][40][41]samsongoddy at hotmail.com
> > > > > [3] mailto:[40][41][42]samsongoddy at hotmail.com
> > > > > [4] mailto:[41][42][43]quozl at laptop.org
> > > > > [5] [42][43][44]http://www.projectmudra.com/.
> > > > > [6] [43][44][45]http://www.projectmudra.com/
> > > > > [7] [44][45][46]http://www.projectmudra.com/
> > > > > [8] mailto:[45][46][47]quozl at laptop.org
> > > > > [9] mailto:[46][47][48]dwgipk at gmail.com
> > > > > [10] mailto:[47][48][49]sugar-
> devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
> > > > > [11] [48][49][50]http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon
> > > > > [12] [49][50][51]http://people.sugarlabs.org/~tymon
> > > > > [13] mailto:[50][51][52]quozl at laptop.org
> > > > > [14] [51][52][53]http://dev.laptop.
> org/~quozl/2015-02-27/
> > > tymon-load-times.png
> > > > > [15] [52][53][54]http://dev.laptop.
> org/~quozl/2015-02-27/
> > > original-load-times.png
> > > > > [16] [53][54][55]http://quozl.linux.org.au/
> > > > > [17] mailto:[54][55][56]Sugar-
> devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
> > > > > [18] [55][56][57]http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/
> > sugar-devel
> > > > > [19] [56][57][58]http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon
> > > > > [20] [57][58][59]http://people.sugarlabs.org/~tymon
> > > > > [21] mailto:[58][59][60]quozl at laptop.org
> > > > > [22] [59][60][61]http://dev.laptop.
> org/~quozl/2015-02-27/
> > > tymon-load-times.png
> > > > > [23] [60][61][62]http://dev.laptop.
> org/~quozl/2015-02-27/
> > > original-load-times.png
> > > > > [24] [61][62][63]http://quozl.linux.org.au/
> > > > > [25] mailto:[62][63][64]Sugar-
> devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
> > > > > [26] [63][64][65]http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/
> > sugar-devel
> > > > > [27] [64][65][66]http://quozl.linux.org.au/
> > > > > [28] mailto:[65][66][67]Sugar-
> devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
> > > > > [29] [66][67][68]http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/
> > sugar-devel
> > > > > [30] mailto:[67][68][69]Sugar-
> devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
> > > > > [31] [68][69][70]http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/
> > sugar-devel
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > James Cameron
> > > > [69][70][71]http://quozl.linux.org.au/
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > Sugar-devel mailing list
> > > > [70][71][72]Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
> > > > [71][72][73]http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-
> devel
> > > >
> > > > References:
> > > >
> > > > [1] [73][74]https://activities-2.
> sugarlabs.org/www-sugarlabs/
> > > > [2] mailto:[74][75]quozl at laptop.org
> > > > [3] [75][76]http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon/
> > > > [4] [76][77]http://sugarlabs.org/
> > > > [5] [77][78]http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon/
> > > > [6] [78][79]http://sugarlabs.org/
> > > > [7] [79][80]http://tools.pingdom.com/fpt/#!/csIQSO/
> > > > [8] [80][81]http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon
> > > > [9] mailto:[81][82]samsongoddy at hotmail.com
> > > > [10] mailto:[82][83]samsongoddy at hotmail.com
> > > > [11] mailto:[83][84]quozl at laptop.org
> > > > [12] [84][85]http://www.projectmudra.com/
> > > > [13] [85][86]http://www.projectmudra.com/
> > > > [14] mailto:[86][87]quozl at laptop.org
> > > > [15] mailto:[87][88]dwgipk at gmail.com
> > > > [16] mailto:[88][89]sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
> > > > [17] [89][90]http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon
> > > > [18] [90][91]http://people.sugarlabs.org/~tymon
> > > > [19] mailto:[91][92]quozl at laptop.org
> > > > [20] [92][93]http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/
> > tymon-load-times.png
> > > > [21] [93][94]http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/
> > original-load-times.png
> > > > [22] [94][95]http://quozl.linux.org.au/
> > > > [23] mailto:[95][96]Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
> > > > [24] [96][97]http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
> > > > [25] [97][98]http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon
> > > > [26] [98][99]http://people.sugarlabs.org/~tymon
> > > > [27] mailto:[99][100]quozl at laptop.org
> > > > [28] [100][101]http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/
> > tymon-load-times.png
> > > > [29] [101][102]http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/
> > original-load-times.png
> > > > [30] [102][103]http://quozl.linux.org.au/
> > > > [31] mailto:[103][104]Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
> > > > [32] [104][105]http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-
> devel
> > > > [33] [105][106]http://quozl.linux.org.au/
> > > > [34] mailto:[106][107]Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
> > > > [35] [107][108]http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-
> devel
> > > > [36] mailto:[108][109]Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
> > > > [37] [109][110]http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-
> devel
> > > > [38] [110][111]http://tools.pingdom.com/fpt/#!/csIQSO/
> sugarlabs.org
> > /~tymon
> > > > [39] mailto:[111][112]samsongoddy at hotmail.com
> > > > [40] mailto:[112][113]samsongoddy at hotmail.com
> > > > [41] mailto:[113][114]quozl at laptop.org
> > > > [42] [114][115]http://www.projectmudra.com/
> > > > [43] [115][116]http://www.projectmudra.com/
> > > > [44] [116][117]http://www.projectmudra.com/
> > > > [45] mailto:[117][118]quozl at laptop.org
> > > > [46] mailto:[118][119]dwgipk at gmail.com
> > > > [47] mailto:[119][120]sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
> > > > [48] [120][121]http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon
> > > > [49] [121][122]http://people.sugarlabs.org/~tymon
> > > > [50] mailto:[122][123]quozl at laptop.org
> > > > [51] [123][124]http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/
> > tymon-load-times.png
> > > > [52] [124][125]http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/
> > original-load-times.png
> > > > [53] [125][126]http://quozl.linux.org.au/
> > > > [54] mailto:[126][127]Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
> > > > [55] [127][128]http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-
> devel
> > > > [56] [128][129]http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon
> > > > [57] [129][130]http://people.sugarlabs.org/~tymon
> > > > [58] mailto:[130][131]quozl at laptop.org
> > > > [59] [131][132]http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/
> > tymon-load-times.png
> > > > [60] [132][133]http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/
> > original-load-times.png
> > > > [61] [133][134]http://quozl.linux.org.au/
> > > > [62] mailto:[134][135]Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
> > > > [63] [135][136]http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-
> devel
> > > > [64] [136][137]http://quozl.linux.org.au/
> > > > [65] mailto:[137][138]Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
> > > > [66] [138][139]http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-
> devel
> > > > [67] mailto:[139][140]Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
> > > > [68] [140][141]http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-
> devel
> > > > [69] [141][142]http://quozl.linux.org.au/
> > > > [70] mailto:[142][143]Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
> > > > [71] [143][144]http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-
> devel
> > >
> > > --
> > > James Cameron
> > > [144][145]http://quozl.linux.org.au/
> > >
> > > References:
> > >
> > > [1] mailto:[146]quozl at laptop.org
> > > [2] [147]https://activities-2.sugarlabs.org/www-sugarlabs/
> > > [3] mailto:[148]quozl at laptop.org
> > > [4] [149]http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon/
> > > [5] [150]http://sugarlabs.org/
> > > [6] [151]http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon/
> > > [7] [152]http://sugarlabs.org/
> > > [8] [153]http://tools.pingdom.com/fpt/#!/
> > > [9] [154]http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon
> > > [10] mailto:[155]samsongoddy at hotmail.com
> > > [11] mailto:[156]samsongoddy at hotmail.com
> > > [12] mailto:[157]quozl at laptop.org
> > > [13] [158]http://www.projectmudra.com/
> > > [14] [159]http://www.projectmudra.com/
> > > [15] mailto:[160]quozl at laptop.org
> > > [16] mailto:[161]dwgipk at gmail.com
> > > [17] mailto:[162]sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
> > > [18] [163]http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon
> > > [19] [164]http://people.sugarlabs.org/~tymon
> > > [20] mailto:[165]quozl at laptop.org
> > > [21] [166]http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/
> > > [22] [167]http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/
> > > [23] [168]http://quozl.linux.org.au/
> > > [24] mailto:[169]Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
> > > [25] [170]http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
> > > [26] [171]http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon
> > > [27] [172]http://people.sugarlabs.org/~tymon
> > > [28] mailto:[173]quozl at laptop.org
> > > [29] [174]http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/
> > > [30] [175]http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/
> > > [31] [176]http://quozl.linux.org.au/
> > > [32] mailto:[177]Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
> > > [33] [178]http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
> > > [34] [179]http://quozl.linux.org.au/
> > > [35] mailto:[180]Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
> > > [36] [181]http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
> > > [37] mailto:[182]Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
> > > [38] [183]http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
> > > [39] [184]http://tools.pingdom.com/fpt/#!/csIQSO/sugarlabs.org/~
> tymon
> > > [40] mailto:[185]samsongoddy at hotmail.com
> > > [41] mailto:[186]samsongoddy at hotmail.com
> > > [42] mailto:[187]quozl at laptop.org
> > > [43] [188]http://www.projectmudra.com/
> > > [44] [189]http://www.projectmudra.com/
> > > [45] [190]http://www.projectmudra.com/
> > > [46] mailto:[191]quozl at laptop.org
> > > [47] mailto:[192]dwgipk at gmail.com
> > > [48] mailto:[193]sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
> > > [49] [194]http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon
> > > [50] [195]http://people.sugarlabs.org/~tymon
> > > [51] mailto:[196]quozl at laptop.org
> > > [52] [197]http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/tymon-load-
> times.png
> > > [53] [198]http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/original-
> load-times.png
> > > [54] [199]http://quozl.linux.org.au/
> > > [55] mailto:[200]Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
> > > [56] [201]http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
> > > [57] [202]http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon
> > > [58] [203]http://people.sugarlabs.org/~tymon
> > > [59] mailto:[204]quozl at laptop.org
> > > [60] [205]http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/tymon-load-
> times.png
> > > [61] [206]http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/original-
> load-times.png
> > > [62] [207]http://quozl.linux.org.au/
> > > [63] mailto:[208]Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
> > > [64] [209]http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
> > > [65] [210]http://quozl.linux.org.au/
> > > [66] mailto:[211]Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
> > > [67] [212]http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
> > > [68] mailto:[213]Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
> > > [69] [214]http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
> > > [70] [215]http://quozl.linux.org.au/
> > > [71] mailto:[216]Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
> > > [72] [217]http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
> > > [73] [218]https://activities-2.sugarlabs.org/www-sugarlabs/
> > > [74] mailto:[219]quozl at laptop.org
> > > [75] [220]http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon/
> > > [76] [221]http://sugarlabs.org/
> > > [77] [222]http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon/
> > > [78] [223]http://sugarlabs.org/
> > > [79] [224]http://tools.pingdom.com/fpt/#!/csIQSO/
> > > [80] [225]http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon
> > > [81] mailto:[226]samsongoddy at hotmail.com
> > > [82] mailto:[227]samsongoddy at hotmail.com
> > > [83] mailto:[228]quozl at laptop.org
> > > [84] [229]http://www.projectmudra.com/
> > > [85] [230]http://www.projectmudra.com/
> > > [86] mailto:[231]quozl at laptop.org
> > > [87] mailto:[232]dwgipk at gmail.com
> > > [88] mailto:[233]sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
> > > [89] [234]http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon
> > > [90] [235]http://people.sugarlabs.org/~tymon
> > > [91] mailto:[236]quozl at laptop.org
> > > [92] [237]http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/tymon-load-
> times.png
> > > [93] [238]http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/original-
> load-times.png
> > > [94] [239]http://quozl.linux.org.au/
> > > [95] mailto:[240]Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
> > > [96] [241]http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
> > > [97] [242]http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon
> > > [98] [243]http://people.sugarlabs.org/~tymon
> > > [99] mailto:[244]quozl at laptop.org
> > > [100] [245]http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/tymon-load-
> times.png
> > > [101] [246]http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/
> > original-load-times.png
> > > [102] [247]http://quozl.linux.org.au/
> > > [103] mailto:[248]Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
> > > [104] [249]http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
> > > [105] [250]http://quozl.linux.org.au/
> > > [106] mailto:[251]Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
> > > [107] [252]http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
> > > [108] mailto:[253]Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
> > > [109] [254]http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
> > > [110] [255]http://tools.pingdom.com/fpt/#!/csIQSO/sugarlabs.org/~
> tymon
> > > [111] mailto:[256]samsongoddy at hotmail.com
> > > [112] mailto:[257]samsongoddy at hotmail.com
> > > [113] mailto:[258]quozl at laptop.org
> > > [114] [259]http://www.projectmudra.com/
> > > [115] [260]http://www.projectmudra.com/
> > > [116] [261]http://www.projectmudra.com/
> > > [117] mailto:[262]quozl at laptop.org
> > > [118] mailto:[263]dwgipk at gmail.com
> > > [119] mailto:[264]sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
> > > [120] [265]http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon
> > > [121] [266]http://people.sugarlabs.org/~tymon
> > > [122] mailto:[267]quozl at laptop.org
> > > [123] [268]http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/tymon-load-
> times.png
> > > [124] [269]http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/
> > original-load-times.png
> > > [125] [270]http://quozl.linux.org.au/
> > > [126] mailto:[271]Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
> > > [127] [272]http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
> > > [128] [273]http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon
> > > [129] [274]http://people.sugarlabs.org/~tymon
> > > [130] mailto:[275]quozl at laptop.org
> > > [131] [276]http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/tymon-load-
> times.png
> > > [132] [277]http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/
> > original-load-times.png
> > > [133] [278]http://quozl.linux.org.au/
> > > [134] mailto:[279]Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
> > > [135] [280]http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
> > > [136] [281]http://quozl.linux.org.au/
> > > [137] mailto:[282]Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
> > > [138] [283]http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
> > > [139] mailto:[284]Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
> > > [140] [285]http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
> > > [141] [286]http://quozl.linux.org.au/
> > > [142] mailto:[287]Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
> > > [143] [288]http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
> > > [144] [289]http://quozl.linux.org.au/
> >
> > --
> > James Cameron
> > [290]http://quozl.linux.org.au/
> >
> > References:
> >
> > [1] mailto:quozl at laptop.org
> > [2] mailto:quozl at laptop.org
> > [3] https://activities-2.sugarlabs.org/
> > [4] mailto:quozl at laptop.org
> > [5] http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon/
> > [6] http://sugarlabs.org/
> > [7] http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon/
> > [8] http://sugarlabs.org/
> > [9] http://tools.pingdom.com/fpt
> > [10] http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon
> > [11] mailto:samsongoddy at hotmail.com
> > [12] mailto:samsongoddy at hotmail.com
> > [13] mailto:quozl at laptop.org
> > [14] http://www.projectmudra.com/
> > [15] http://www.projectmudra.com/
> > [16] mailto:quozl at laptop.org
> > [17] mailto:dwgipk at gmail.com
> > [18] mailto:sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
> > [19] http://sugarlabs.org/
> > [20] http://people.sugarlabs.org/~tymon
> > [21] mailto:quozl at laptop.org
> > [22] http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/
> > [23] http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/
> > [24] http://quozl.linux.org.au/
> > [25] mailto:Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
> > [26] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/
> > [27] http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon
> > [28] http://people.sugarlabs.org/~tymon
> > [29] mailto:quozl at laptop.org
> > [30] http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/
> > [31] http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/
> > [32] http://quozl.linux.org.au/
> > [33] mailto:Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
> > [34] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/
> > [35] http://quozl.linux.org.au/
> > [36] mailto:Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
> > [37] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
> > [38] mailto:Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
> > [39] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
> > [40] http://tools.pingdom.com/fpt/#!/csIQSO/sugarlabs.org/
> > [41] mailto:samsongoddy at hotmail.com
> > [42] mailto:samsongoddy at hotmail.com
> > [43] mailto:quozl at laptop.org
> > [44] http://www.projectmudra.com/
> > [45] http://www.projectmudra.com/
> > [46] http://www.projectmudra.com/
> > [47] mailto:quozl at laptop.org
> > [48] mailto:dwgipk at gmail.com
> > [49] mailto:sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
> > [50] http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon
> > [51] http://people.sugarlabs.org/~tymon
> > [52] mailto:quozl at laptop.org
> > [53] http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/
> > [54] http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/
> > [55] http://quozl.linux.org.au/
> > [56] mailto:Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
> > [57] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
> > [58] http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon
> > [59] http://people.sugarlabs.org/~tymon
> > [60] mailto:quozl at laptop.org
> > [61] http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/
> > [62] http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/
> > [63] http://quozl.linux.org.au/
> > [64] mailto:Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
> > [65] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
> > [66] http://quozl.linux.org.au/
> > [67] mailto:Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
> > [68] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
> > [69] mailto:Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
> > [70] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
> > [71] http://quozl.linux.org.au/
> > [72] mailto:Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
> > [73] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
> > [74] https://activities-2.sugarlabs.org/www-sugarlabs/
> > [75] mailto:quozl at laptop.org
> > [76] http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon/
> > [77] http://sugarlabs.org/
> > [78] http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon/
> > [79] http://sugarlabs.org/
> > [80] http://tools.pingdom.com/fpt/#!/csIQSO/
> > [81] http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon
> > [82] mailto:samsongoddy at hotmail.com
> > [83] mailto:samsongoddy at hotmail.com
> > [84] mailto:quozl at laptop.org
> > [85] http://www.projectmudra.com/
> > [86] http://www.projectmudra.com/
> > [87] mailto:quozl at laptop.org
> > [88] mailto:dwgipk at gmail.com
> > [89] mailto:sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
> > [90] http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon
> > [91] http://people.sugarlabs.org/~tymon
> > [92] mailto:quozl at laptop.org
> > [93] http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/tymon-load-times.png
> > [94] http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/original-load-times.png
> > [95] http://quozl.linux.org.au/
> > [96] mailto:Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
> > [97] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
> > [98] http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon
> > [99] http://people.sugarlabs.org/~tymon
> > [100] mailto:quozl at laptop.org
> > [101] http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/tymon-load-times.png
> > [102] http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/original-load-times.png
> > [103] http://quozl.linux.org.au/
> > [104] mailto:Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
> > [105] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
> > [106] http://quozl.linux.org.au/
> > [107] mailto:Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
> > [108] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
> > [109] mailto:Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
> > [110] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
> > [111] http://tools.pingdom.com/fpt/#!/csIQSO/sugarlabs.org/~tymon
> > [112] mailto:samsongoddy at hotmail.com
> > [113] mailto:samsongoddy at hotmail.com
> > [114] mailto:quozl at laptop.org
> > [115] http://www.projectmudra.com/
> > [116] http://www.projectmudra.com/
> > [117] http://www.projectmudra.com/
> > [118] mailto:quozl at laptop.org
> > [119] mailto:dwgipk at gmail.com
> > [120] mailto:sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
> > [121] http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon
> > [122] http://people.sugarlabs.org/~tymon
> > [123] mailto:quozl at laptop.org
> > [124] http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/tymon-load-times.png
> > [125] http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/original-load-times.png
> > [126] http://quozl.linux.org.au/
> > [127] mailto:Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
> > [128] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
> > [129] http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon
> > [130] http://people.sugarlabs.org/~tymon
> > [131] mailto:quozl at laptop.org
> > [132] http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/tymon-load-times.png
> > [133] http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/original-load-times.png
> > [134] http://quozl.linux.org.au/
> > [135] mailto:Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
> > [136] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
> > [137] http://quozl.linux.org.au/
> > [138] mailto:Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
> > [139] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
> > [140] mailto:Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
> > [141] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
> > [142] http://quozl.linux.org.au/
> > [143] mailto:Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
> > [144] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
> > [145] http://quozl.linux.org.au/
> > [146] mailto:quozl at laptop.org
> > [147] https://activities-2.sugarlabs.org/www-sugarlabs/
> > [148] mailto:quozl at laptop.org
> > [149] http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon/
> > [150] http://sugarlabs.org/
> > [151] http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon/
> > [152] http://sugarlabs.org/
> > [153] http://tools.pingdom.com/fpt/#!/
> > [154] http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon
> > [155] mailto:samsongoddy at hotmail.com
> > [156] mailto:samsongoddy at hotmail.com
> > [157] mailto:quozl at laptop.org
> > [158] http://www.projectmudra.com/
> > [159] http://www.projectmudra.com/
> > [160] mailto:quozl at laptop.org
> > [161] mailto:dwgipk at gmail.com
> > [162] mailto:sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
> > [163] http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon
> > [164] http://people.sugarlabs.org/~tymon
> > [165] mailto:quozl at laptop.org
> > [166] http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/
> > [167] http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/
> > [168] http://quozl.linux.org.au/
> > [169] mailto:Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
> > [170] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
> > [171] http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon
> > [172] http://people.sugarlabs.org/~tymon
> > [173] mailto:quozl at laptop.org
> > [174] http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/
> > [175] http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/
> > [176] http://quozl.linux.org.au/
> > [177] mailto:Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
> > [178] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
> > [179] http://quozl.linux.org.au/
> > [180] mailto:Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
> > [181] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
> > [182] mailto:Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
> > [183] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
> > [184] http://tools.pingdom.com/fpt/#!/csIQSO/sugarlabs.org/~tymon
> > [185] mailto:samsongoddy at hotmail.com
> > [186] mailto:samsongoddy at hotmail.com
> > [187] mailto:quozl at laptop.org
> > [188] http://www.projectmudra.com/
> > [189] http://www.projectmudra.com/
> > [190] http://www.projectmudra.com/
> > [191] mailto:quozl at laptop.org
> > [192] mailto:dwgipk at gmail.com
> > [193] mailto:sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
> > [194] http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon
> > [195] http://people.sugarlabs.org/~tymon
> > [196] mailto:quozl at laptop.org
> > [197] http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/tymon-load-times.png
> > [198] http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/original-load-times.png
> > [199] http://quozl.linux.org.au/
> > [200] mailto:Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
> > [201] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
> > [202] http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon
> > [203] http://people.sugarlabs.org/~tymon
> > [204] mailto:quozl at laptop.org
> > [205] http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/tymon-load-times.png
> > [206] http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/original-load-times.png
> > [207] http://quozl.linux.org.au/
> > [208] mailto:Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
> > [209] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
> > [210] http://quozl.linux.org.au/
> > [211] mailto:Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
> > [212] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
> > [213] mailto:Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
> > [214] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
> > [215] http://quozl.linux.org.au/
> > [216] mailto:Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
> > [217] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
> > [218] https://activities-2.sugarlabs.org/www-sugarlabs/
> > [219] mailto:quozl at laptop.org
> > [220] http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon/
> > [221] http://sugarlabs.org/
> > [222] http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon/
> > [223] http://sugarlabs.org/
> > [224] http://tools.pingdom.com/fpt/#!/csIQSO/
> > [225] http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon
> > [226] mailto:samsongoddy at hotmail.com
> > [227] mailto:samsongoddy at hotmail.com
> > [228] mailto:quozl at laptop.org
> > [229] http://www.projectmudra.com/
> > [230] http://www.projectmudra.com/
> > [231] mailto:quozl at laptop.org
> > [232] mailto:dwgipk at gmail.com
> > [233] mailto:sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
> > [234] http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon
> > [235] http://people.sugarlabs.org/~tymon
> > [236] mailto:quozl at laptop.org
> > [237] http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/tymon-load-times.png
> > [238] http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/original-load-times.png
> > [239] http://quozl.linux.org.au/
> > [240] mailto:Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
> > [241] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
> > [242] http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon
> > [243] <http://people.sugarlabs.org/~tymon>
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