[Sugar-devel] SugarLabs.org new website - looking for opinions/ideas!
Tymon Radzik
dwgipk at gmail.com
Fri Feb 27 19:13:45 EST 2015
Unfortunately I can check only mobile view now, I will give you opinion
tomorrow. Have a nice night!
On Sat 28 Feb 2015 at 01:08 Tymon Radzik <dwgipk at gmail.com> wrote:
> I use FitText to make text being more responsive and stretch it in width
> div. I use also some additional jQuery code to take care about logos and
> website colors. I will take a look on your PR in a second.
> On Sat 28 Feb 2015 at 01:06 Sam P. <sam.parkinson3 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Beside a gallery, what features is my version missing? "My version" is
>> 100% based off "yours", see the pull request I sent.
>>
>> On Sat, 28 Feb 2015 11:05 am Tymon Radzik <dwgipk at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I can use more if you want Sam ;). Seriously - all libraries I use are
>>> needed for website. Your website doesn't require features like my one. We
>>> should rather take care about optimization in loading them, not on just
>>> telling "oh this is so slow..."
>>>
>>> Good night :-)
>>> On Sat 28 Feb 2015 at 01:02 Sam P. <sam.parkinson3 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I think the load speed is caused by Tymon's site using basically every
>>>> JavaScript and css library that has ever been published. Does this version
>>>> load faster @Quozl? https://activities-2.sugarlabs.org/www-sugarlabs/
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, 28 Feb 2015 10:30 am James Cameron <quozl at laptop.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Same test XO-1 laptop, same URLs, without clearing cache.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon/ ... load and render 35.343 seconds,
>>>>> (previously 31 seconds),
>>>>>
>>>>> http://sugarlabs.org/ ... load and render 6.064 seconds, (previously
>>>>> 5 seconds),
>>>>>
>>>>> http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon/ ... render only, 14.080 seconds,
>>>>> (previously 14 seconds).
>>>>>
>>>>> http://sugarlabs.org/ ... render only, 4.400 seconds, (previously 3.6
>>>>> seconds),
>>>>>
>>>>> My conclusion is that there has been no change to load and render
>>>>> since last test on the XO-1.
>>>>>
>>>>> Perhaps the video embedding element is the cause?
>>>>>
>>>>> Provide a page with and without the video embedding element for
>>>>> comparison?
>>>>>
>>>>> Three seconds on a modern system is still a surprisingly long time
>>>>> compared to the original site. This is a regression. Can't you
>>>>> include those separate files into the main file?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 07:11:30PM +0000, Tymon Radzik wrote:
>>>>> > Hello,
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Thank you all for your opinions. We'll try to consider/implement
>>>>> them. James
>>>>> > Cameron - thank you for your data, they were useful. We've hade
>>>>> significant
>>>>> > changes to page's layout and performance. Please check it now. We've
>>>>> done some
>>>>> > tests and page loads not longer than 3 seconds. UI is more cleaner
>>>>> now. Please
>>>>> > take a look on this website - [1]http://tools.pingdom.com/
>>>>> fpt/#!/csIQSO/
>>>>> > sugarlabs.org/~tymon
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Again, waiting for your suggestions!
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Regards,
>>>>> > Tymon
>>>>> >
>>>>> > pt., 27 lut 2015 o 12:24 użytkownik samson goddy <[2]
>>>>> samsongoddy at hotmail.com>
>>>>> > napisał:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > ━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━
>>>>> ━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━
>>>>> > From: [3]samsongoddy at hotmail.com
>>>>> > To: [4]quozl at laptop.org
>>>>> > Subject: RE: [Sugar-devel] SugarLabs.org new website - looking
>>>>> for opinions
>>>>> > /ideas!
>>>>> > Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2015 12:20:15 +0100
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Hello, I have a little addition to this website, But i am not a
>>>>> web
>>>>> > designer but the "Activity Section" is suppose to change. When i
>>>>> mean
>>>>> > change, If a user is wanting to download an activity, he/she
>>>>> will be
>>>>> > scrolling down to actually find what he or she want and that's
>>>>> no a good
>>>>> > idea. What if the activity section have a drop down menu pattern
>>>>> or some
>>>>> > like this from this Project mudra site [5][6]
>>>>> http://www.projectmudra.com/
>>>>> > it will be faster. Also the head or menu should have a drop
>>>>> down pattern.
>>>>> > The color is kinda brights for the eyes. Since we will be
>>>>> porting to this
>>>>> > new site what if every thing should be in drop down pattern just
>>>>> like the
>>>>> > [7]http://www.projectmudra.com/ site. Remember i am only
>>>>> suggesting.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Best Regards
>>>>> > Samson Goddy
>>>>> >
>>>>> > > Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2015 09:30:09 +1100
>>>>> > > From: [8]quozl at laptop.org
>>>>> > > To: [9]dwgipk at gmail.com
>>>>> > > CC: [10]sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
>>>>> > > Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] SugarLabs.org new website - looking
>>>>> for
>>>>> > opinions/ideas!
>>>>> >
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > I did that the first time, and I repeated it now. There was no
>>>>> > > real difference.
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 10:10:54PM +0000, Tymon Radzik wrote:
>>>>> > > > Hello,
>>>>> > > > please try to visit [1][11]http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon
>>>>> instead of [2]
>>>>> > http://
>>>>> > > > [12]people.sugarlabs.org/~tymon , then there won't be any
>>>>> 304
>>>>> > redirects. Thank you
>>>>> > > > for other suggestions I will take a look on them tomorrow.
>>>>> > > > Tymon
>>>>> > > >
>>>>> > > > czw., 26 lut 2015 o 22:57 użytkownik James Cameron <[3][13]
>>>>> > quozl at laptop.org>
>>>>> > > > napisał:
>>>>> > > >
>>>>> > > > It took a long time to load. See Firefox developer console
>>>>> > > > screenshots of query load times:
>>>>> > > >
>>>>> > > > [4][14]http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/tymon-load-ti
>>>>> mes.png
>>>>> > > > [5][15]http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/original-load
>>>>> -times.png
>>>>> > > >
>>>>> > > > I suggest you check yourself the load times without cache,
>>>>> and reduce
>>>>> > > > the number of servers that have to be resolved. Also
>>>>> identify the
>>>>> > > > network speeds of the target market, and how they will
>>>>> perceive load
>>>>> > > > times.
>>>>> > > >
>>>>> > > > The black text on saturated colours was very hard to read,
>>>>> because
>>>>> > > > there was not enough contrast between the text and the
>>>>> background.
>>>>> > > >
>>>>> > > > The animation of the titles seems unnecessary and
>>>>> distracting.
>>>>> > > >
>>>>> > > > Some of the introduction is repeated word for word in the
>>>>> About
>>>>> > > > section.
>>>>> > > >
>>>>> > > > The style of the embedded activities element is inconsistent
>>>>> with the
>>>>> > > > surrounding page style.
>>>>> > > >
>>>>> > > > Given recent discussions, there's probably an overemphasis
>>>>> on history
>>>>> > > > of Sugar, or the history of computing.
>>>>> > > >
>>>>> > > > Otherwise, good progress.
>>>>> > > >
>>>>> > > > --
>>>>> > > > James Cameron
>>>>> > > > [6][16]http://quozl.linux.org.au/
>>>>> > > > _______________________________________________
>>>>> > > > Sugar-devel mailing list
>>>>> > > > [7][17]Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
>>>>> > > > [8][18]http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
>>>>> > > >
>>>>> > > > References:
>>>>> > > >
>>>>> > > > [1] [19]http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon
>>>>> > > > [2] [20]http://people.sugarlabs.org/~tymon
>>>>> > > > [3] mailto:[21]quozl at laptop.org
>>>>> > > > [4] [22]http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/tymon-load-
>>>>> times.png
>>>>> > > > [5] [23]http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/original-
>>>>> load-times.png
>>>>> > > > [6] [24]http://quozl.linux.org.au/
>>>>> > > > [7] mailto:[25]Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
>>>>> > > > [8] [26]http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > --
>>>>> > > James Cameron
>>>>> > > [27]http://quozl.linux.org.au/
>>>>> > > _______________________________________________
>>>>> > > Sugar-devel mailing list
>>>>> > > [28]Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
>>>>> > > [29]http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
>>>>> > _______________________________________________
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>>>>> >
>>>>> > References:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > [1] http://tools.pingdom.com/fpt/#!/csIQSO/sugarlabs.org/~tymon
>>>>> > [2] mailto:samsongoddy at hotmail.com
>>>>> > [3] mailto:samsongoddy at hotmail.com
>>>>> > [4] mailto:quozl at laptop.org
>>>>> > [5] http://www.projectmudra.com/.
>>>>> > [6] http://www.projectmudra.com/
>>>>> > [7] http://www.projectmudra.com/
>>>>> > [8] mailto:quozl at laptop.org
>>>>> > [9] mailto:dwgipk at gmail.com
>>>>> > [10] mailto:sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
>>>>> > [11] http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon
>>>>> > [12] http://people.sugarlabs.org/~tymon
>>>>> > [13] mailto:quozl at laptop.org
>>>>> > [14] http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/tymon-load-times.png
>>>>> > [15] http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/original-load-times.png
>>>>> > [16] http://quozl.linux.org.au/
>>>>> > [17] mailto:Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
>>>>> > [18] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
>>>>> > [19] http://sugarlabs.org/~tymon
>>>>> > [20] http://people.sugarlabs.org/~tymon
>>>>> > [21] mailto:quozl at laptop.org
>>>>> > [22] http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/tymon-load-times.png
>>>>> > [23] http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2015-02-27/original-load-times.png
>>>>> > [24] http://quozl.linux.org.au/
>>>>> > [25] mailto:Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
>>>>> > [26] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
>>>>> > [27] http://quozl.linux.org.au/
>>>>> > [28] mailto:Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
>>>>> > [29] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
>>>>> > [30] mailto:Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
>>>>> > [31] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> James Cameron
>>>>> http://quozl.linux.org.au/
>>>>>
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