[Sugar-devel] Speak Activity

[Tony Anderson]

Hi, James

The current help shows the 'traditional' Speak. I thought you wanted me 
to document the change with new screenshots, etc. Personally,
I see no problem with the traditional technique. It makes the language 
selection more accessible and its what users know.

The 'Arabic' issue is quite other. A language is implemented in Speak by 
supplying a file of phonemes corresponding to the language as it is 
spoken in
a particular area (e.g. Arabic may be pronounced differently in Egypt 
and Morrocco. The phonemes are coded using linguistics conventions. At one
point, we tried to get a Nepali langauge by modifying the phonemes of 
Hindu - this turned out to be beyond the capacity of some very 
intelligent interns.
We could perhaps find if the contributor of Speak has added languages to 
his version which we have not incorporated in Speak - but that would be 
a new
version and some work. Volunteers are certainly welcome.

Tony
On 08/13/2015 09:47 AM, James Cameron wrote:
> No, not really.
>
> The documentation still needs changing for the position of the
> language selection, using the latest version of Speak, regardless of
> your problem with Arabic missing.  That's what I thought you were
> suggesting with:
>
>> Perhaps the Help description on Speak should be updated.
> Underneath Sugar, your problem of Arabic support is that "espeak
> --voices" command doesn't list Arabic, because it is not supported in
> eSpeak:
>
> 	http://espeak.sourceforge.net/languages.html
>
> A quick search for espeak arabic yields Al-Mintiq and ar-espeak
> projects.  Fedora doesn't have these packaged.
>
> So it looks like a challenge to add Arabic.  Let us know how you go
> with that.
>
> On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 08:53:16AM +0200, Tony Anderson wrote:
>> Wouldn't it be better to make Speak work as described in the documentation?
>>
>> Tony
>> On 08/13/2015 12:48 AM, James Cameron wrote:
>>> Yes, please update it Tony.
>>>
>>> https://github.com/godiard/help-activity/blob/master/source/speak.rst
>>> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activities/Help/Contribute
>>>
>>> On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 03:59:58PM +0200, Tony Anderson wrote:
>>>> Hi, Walter
>>>>
>>>> Thanks. Sadly, that shows we don't have Arabic support in Speak. Perhaps the
>>>> Help description on Speak should be updated.
>>>>
>>>> Tony
>>>>
>>>> On 08/12/2015 03:40 PM, Walter Bender wrote:
>>>>
>>>>      On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 9:22 AM, Tony Anderson [1]<tony_anderson at usa.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>          Hi, Gonzalo
>>>>
>>>>          I am getting involved in a new deployment  which needs Arabic support. So I
>>>>          was trying to describe what is available and what may need some work. I
>>>>          wanted
>>>>          to point to the Speak activity but first wanted to check if Arabic is one of
>>>>          the languages. I was a bit surprised to find that language selection is not
>>>>          in
>>>>          version 51 (13.2.5). The help activity still shows it in the screen-shot.
>>>>
>>>>      It is still there, just under the voice attributes toolbar instead of
>>>>      on the main toolbar. See attached.
>>>>
>>>>      regards.
>>>>
>>>>      -walter
>>>>
>>>>          Tony
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