[Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Testing Sugar Activities Fedora-Live-SoaS-i686-21_Beta-4

Iain Brown Douglas iain at browndouglas.plus.com
Fri Nov 28 08:08:14 EST 2014


I have run (on Fedora-Live-SoaS-i686-21_Beta-4)

sudo yum upgrade --enablerepo=updates-testing sugar*

In brief testing all good, no regressions seen - brief testing only, as
this is not on a *clean* install.

Iain

On Thu, 2014-11-27 at 07:16 -0300, Gonzalo Odiard wrote:
> I think the spec was fixed by peter in sugar-speak 48-2
> 
> 
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1167791
> 
> 
> On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 6:12 AM, Iain Brown Douglas
> <iain at browndouglas.plus.com> wrote:
>         On Tue, 2014-11-25 at 14:56 +0000, Iain Brown Douglas wrote:
>         > On Tue, 2014-11-25 at 13:09 +0000, Peter Robinson wrote:
>         > > On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 12:47 PM, Sebastian Silva
>         > > <sebastian at somosazucar.org> wrote:
>         > > > btw it's sneaky to remove funcionality in a .spec file,
>         no?
>         > >
>         > > No, it's not, it happens all the time. It might be that it
>         breaks in
>         > > certain situations, isn't re-distributable, causes
>         problems the
>         > > upstream maintainer won't fix or any number of other
>         reasons. What
>         > > ever the reason is it's historical and not documented, I
>         wouldn't
>         > > assume malice. It's likely because translations or similar
>         were broken
>         > > at the time. I mean we are talking the heady days of
>         Fedora 14 when it
>         > > was removed!
>         > >
>         > > Peter
>         > >
>         > > >
>         > > > 2014-11-25 7:46 GMT-05:00 Sebastian Silva
>         <sebastian at somosazucar.org>:
>         > > >> I added Alice and Sara (spanish bot) but was not aware
>         it was removed.
>         > > >> It certainly runs quite well in spanish XO1, as
>         deployed in Peru.
>         > > >> I was not aware of responsible for the removed
>         functionality nor was I
>         > > >> aware of any bugs related to it or performance.
>         > > >>
>         > > >> Please add it back
>         > > >> Sebastian Silva
>         > > >> http://somosazucar.org/
>         > > >>
>         > > >>
>         > > >>
>         > > >> 2014-11-25 7:17 GMT-05:00 Peter Robinson
>         <pbrobinson at gmail.com>:
>         > > >>> On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 12:05 PM, Gonzalo Odiard
>         <godiard at sugarlabs.org> wrote:
>         > > >>>>
>         > > >>>>
>         > > >>>> On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 8:28 AM, Peter Robinson
>         <pbrobinson at gmail.com>
>         > > >>>> wrote:
>         > > >>>>>
>         > > >>>>> On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 4:10 PM, Gonzalo Odiard
>         <godiard at sugarlabs.org>
>         > > >>>>> wrote:
>         > > >>>>> > You find it. I don't know why the bot directory
>         should be deleted.
>         > > >>>>> > I cc to peter, who maintain the rpm.
>         > > >>>>>
>         > > >>>>> It goes back long before I was  the maintainer and
>         was previously
>         > > >>>>> working. The question is what does it do, and why
>         when Speak has been
>         > > >>>>> working for years does it suddenly break.
>         > > >>>>>
>         > > >>>>>
>         > > >>>>>
>         http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/sugar-speak.git/commit/?id=438f3796a85556873c5e45d6ba01ccfa558ca198
>         > > >>>>
>         > Just an observation, mainly from what I learned the past few
>         days,
>         > rather than memory.
>         >
>         > Alice's brain in Speak has mysteriously appeared and
>         disappeared for me
>         > in SoaS.
>         >
>         > I just ran a SoaS Coconut CD, with Speak-29 on it. No
>         functioning brain.
>         > However I am guessing at the time I used it last, Speak
>         would have been
>         > updated from ASLO, and as a "Stick", the brain would have
>         been
>         > functioning.
>         >
>         > Iain
>         > > >>>>
>         > > >>>> That patch removes the bots functionality. Looks like
>         was done to make the
>         > > >>>> activity
>         > > >>>> work on systems with small memory (XO-1, probably)
>         > > >>>> cc is Sebastian, the patch author, to check if this
>         is still needed.
>         > > >>>>
>         > > >>>> I see 438f3796a85556873c5e45d6ba01ccfa558ca198
>         removes the bots directory,
>         > > >>>> _and_ apply the patch  sugar-speak-no-aiml.patch, to
>         remove the need of the
>         > > >>>> bots data,
>         > > >>>> but right now, we are not applying that patch, then
>         would be better add the
>         > > >>>> bot directory again.
>         > > >>>
>         > > >>> I suspect it was sufficiently long ago that Seb won't
>         remember the reason.
>         > > >>>
>         > > >>> Ultimately we need to just sort it out here.
>         > > >>>
>         
>         
>         Assertion, limited testing, please contradict:
>         Speak, "Ask robot a question" is broken in SoaS 1.00 >
>         
>         It has been broken for several years, but is not seen because
>         a Software
>         update has been available which provides bot/ and
>         functionality of "Ask
>         robot a question".
>         
>         Please can we release Speak-49 to restore "Ask robot a
>         question"
>         functionality in SoaS 1.00 >
>         
>         Please can we hold back Speak-49 from the closing SoaS
>         deadline. This
>         way a Speak-49 Software update will be available to fix SoaS
>         pro temps.
>         
>         I have no way of knowing how sugar-speak.spec file affects
>         XOs, so I
>         cannot propose to alter sugar-speak.spec myself.
>         
>         Iain
>         > > >>> Peter
>         >
>         >
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