[Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Testing Sugar Activities Fedora-Live-SoaS-i686-21_Beta-4

[Iain Brown Douglas]

On Tue, 2014-11-25 at 14:56 +0000, Iain Brown Douglas wrote:
> On Tue, 2014-11-25 at 13:09 +0000, Peter Robinson wrote:
> > On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 12:47 PM, Sebastian Silva
> > <sebastian at somosazucar.org> wrote:
> > > btw it's sneaky to remove funcionality in a .spec file, no?
> > 
> > No, it's not, it happens all the time. It might be that it breaks in
> > certain situations, isn't re-distributable, causes problems the
> > upstream maintainer won't fix or any number of other reasons. What
> > ever the reason is it's historical and not documented, I wouldn't
> > assume malice. It's likely because translations or similar were broken
> > at the time. I mean we are talking the heady days of Fedora 14 when it
> > was removed!
> > 
> > Peter
> > 
> > >
> > > 2014-11-25 7:46 GMT-05:00 Sebastian Silva <sebastian at somosazucar.org>:
> > >> I added Alice and Sara (spanish bot) but was not aware it was removed.
> > >> It certainly runs quite well in spanish XO1, as deployed in Peru.
> > >> I was not aware of responsible for the removed functionality nor was I
> > >> aware of any bugs related to it or performance.
> > >>
> > >> Please add it back
> > >> Sebastian Silva
> > >> http://somosazucar.org/
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> 2014-11-25 7:17 GMT-05:00 Peter Robinson <pbrobinson at gmail.com>:
> > >>> On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 12:05 PM, Gonzalo Odiard <godiard at sugarlabs.org> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 8:28 AM, Peter Robinson <pbrobinson at gmail.com>
> > >>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 4:10 PM, Gonzalo Odiard <godiard at sugarlabs.org>
> > >>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>> > You find it. I don't know why the bot directory should be deleted.
> > >>>>> > I cc to peter, who maintain the rpm.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> It goes back long before I was  the maintainer and was previously
> > >>>>> working. The question is what does it do, and why when Speak has been
> > >>>>> working for years does it suddenly break.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/sugar-speak.git/commit/?id=438f3796a85556873c5e45d6ba01ccfa558ca198
> > >>>>
> Just an observation, mainly from what I learned the past few days,
> rather than memory.
> 
> Alice's brain in Speak has mysteriously appeared and disappeared for me
> in SoaS.
> 
> I just ran a SoaS Coconut CD, with Speak-29 on it. No functioning brain.
> However I am guessing at the time I used it last, Speak would have been
> updated from ASLO, and as a "Stick", the brain would have been
> functioning.
> 
> Iain
> > >>>>
> > >>>> That patch removes the bots functionality. Looks like was done to make the
> > >>>> activity
> > >>>> work on systems with small memory (XO-1, probably)
> > >>>> cc is Sebastian, the patch author, to check if this is still needed.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I see 438f3796a85556873c5e45d6ba01ccfa558ca198 removes the bots directory,
> > >>>> _and_ apply the patch  sugar-speak-no-aiml.patch, to remove the need of the
> > >>>> bots data,
> > >>>> but right now, we are not applying that patch, then would be better add the
> > >>>> bot directory again.
> > >>>
> > >>> I suspect it was sufficiently long ago that Seb won't remember the reason.
> > >>>
> > >>> Ultimately we need to just sort it out here.
> > >>>

Assertion, limited testing, please contradict:
Speak, "Ask robot a question" is broken in SoaS 1.00 >

It has been broken for several years, but is not seen because a Software
update has been available which provides bot/ and functionality of "Ask
robot a question".

Please can we release Speak-49 to restore "Ask robot a question"
functionality in SoaS 1.00 >

Please can we hold back Speak-49 from the closing SoaS deadline. This
way a Speak-49 Software update will be available to fix SoaS pro temps.

I have no way of knowing how sugar-speak.spec file affects XOs, so I
cannot propose to alter sugar-speak.spec myself.

Iain
> > >>> Peter
> 
> 
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