[Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Testing Sugar Activities Fedora-Live-SoaS-i686-21_Beta-4

[Iain Brown Douglas]

On Tue, 2014-11-25 at 13:09 +0000, Peter Robinson wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 12:47 PM, Sebastian Silva
> <sebastian at somosazucar.org> wrote:
> > btw it's sneaky to remove funcionality in a .spec file, no?
> 
> No, it's not, it happens all the time. It might be that it breaks in
> certain situations, isn't re-distributable, causes problems the
> upstream maintainer won't fix or any number of other reasons. What
> ever the reason is it's historical and not documented, I wouldn't
> assume malice. It's likely because translations or similar were broken
> at the time. I mean we are talking the heady days of Fedora 14 when it
> was removed!
> 
> Peter
> 
> >
> > 2014-11-25 7:46 GMT-05:00 Sebastian Silva <sebastian at somosazucar.org>:
> >> I added Alice and Sara (spanish bot) but was not aware it was removed.
> >> It certainly runs quite well in spanish XO1, as deployed in Peru.
> >> I was not aware of responsible for the removed functionality nor was I
> >> aware of any bugs related to it or performance.
> >>
> >> Please add it back
> >> Sebastian Silva
> >> http://somosazucar.org/
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> 2014-11-25 7:17 GMT-05:00 Peter Robinson <pbrobinson at gmail.com>:
> >>> On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 12:05 PM, Gonzalo Odiard <godiard at sugarlabs.org> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 8:28 AM, Peter Robinson <pbrobinson at gmail.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 4:10 PM, Gonzalo Odiard <godiard at sugarlabs.org>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>> > You find it. I don't know why the bot directory should be deleted.
> >>>>> > I cc to peter, who maintain the rpm.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> It goes back long before I was  the maintainer and was previously
> >>>>> working. The question is what does it do, and why when Speak has been
> >>>>> working for years does it suddenly break.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/sugar-speak.git/commit/?id=438f3796a85556873c5e45d6ba01ccfa558ca198
> >>>>
Just an observation, mainly from what I learned the past few days,
rather than memory.

Alice's brain in Speak has mysteriously appeared and disappeared for me
in SoaS.

I just ran a SoaS Coconut CD, with Speak-29 on it. No functioning brain.
However I am guessing at the time I used it last, Speak would have been
updated from ASLO, and as a "Stick", the brain would have been
functioning.

Iain
> >>>>
> >>>> That patch removes the bots functionality. Looks like was done to make the
> >>>> activity
> >>>> work on systems with small memory (XO-1, probably)
> >>>> cc is Sebastian, the patch author, to check if this is still needed.
> >>>>
> >>>> I see 438f3796a85556873c5e45d6ba01ccfa558ca198 removes the bots directory,
> >>>> _and_ apply the patch  sugar-speak-no-aiml.patch, to remove the need of the
> >>>> bots data,
> >>>> but right now, we are not applying that patch, then would be better add the
> >>>> bot directory again.
> >>>
> >>> I suspect it was sufficiently long ago that Seb won't remember the reason.
> >>>
> >>> Ultimately we need to just sort it out here.
> >>>
> >>> Peter