[Sugar-devel] Atom shell

[Christian Stroetmann]

On 13th of March 2014 15:06, Gonzalo Odiard wrote:
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> On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 9:44 AM, Christian Stroetmann 
> <stroetmann at ontolab.com <mailto:stroetmann at ontolab.com>> wrote:
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>     Aloha Everybody
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>     Why don't you ask the creators of the Sugarfox project?
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> Because I can't find anything about that on internet?

Yes, you are right. There is not much publicated under [1], because it 
is self-explanatory: If Sugar Web runs on Firefox, then Sugar Web runs 
on FirefoxOS, and basically it should be possible to use everything that 
runs on Firefox with Sugar Web as well.

But I went back to my own Boot to WebKit stack in relation with 
Sugarfox, because the fee for developers was too high besides some other 
issues.

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>     Seriously, FirefoxOS is an Android with Firefox as desktop, simply
>     said. Even the development environment is based on Firefox. So
>     what works on Firefox should directly work on FirefoxOS as well.
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>     This leads us to Node.js. Personally, I do not like Node.js,
>     because it "internally uses the V8 JavaScript engine to execute
>     code" and "V8 was developed for the Chrome web browser" for
>     example, which was also the reason why I became desinterested in
>     Open webOS. Maybe the issue with the JavaScript engine is not that
>     worse.
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> I am not a expert on the platform. (Really, I should say, I am deeply 
> ignorant about that)
> What I like is the development environment, and the possibility of use 
> already developed resources
> to do the "standard" tasks, take photos, save and play music, browse 
> the web.
> We spent a lot of resources to implement that activities, and is not 
> our core mission.
> Also, FirefoxOS is pointed to cheap devices for the third world, the 
> target of Sugar too.
>
> Gonzalo

Ok, I understand, but let me give you and the other members of this 
mailing-list the information that in this case the fight of the 
platforms takes place on the level of the web browsers and not on the 
level of the hardware and the underlying operating systems anymore. For 
example, every larger manufacturer of mobile devices has announced such 
cheap devices several months ago and virtually are running or will run 
Android. So this is the reason why I guess that it will end up with 
Android and Chrome on Nexus tablet computers and Chromebook netbooks.



Christian

[1] Sugarfox www.ontonics.com/innovation/pipeline.htm#sugarfox

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>     Christian
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>     On the 13th of May 2014 13:39, Daniel Narvaez <sorry, no
>     communication over gmail> wrote:
>>     Yes, that's a good option too. I have not been following too
>>     closely but there seem to be a bit of a push to get it to fully
>>     work also on stock linux (rather than on the android derivative
>>     they use on phones), which would be useful for us.
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>>     On 13 May 2014 13:30, Gonzalo Odiard <godiard at sugarlabs.org
>>     <mailto:godiard at sugarlabs.org>> wrote:
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>>         A few days ago, I saw a FirefoxOS cellphone.
>>         I wonder if we can run Sugar web on that.
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>>         Gonzalo
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>>         On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 11:41 AM, Daniel Narvaez
>>         <dwnarvaez at gmail.com <mailto:dwnarvaez at gmail.com>> wrote:
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>>             Yes it's basically node.js + chrome + some custom bits to
>>             integrate the two. It would be perfect to write an OS
>>             fully in js (dream or nightmare? :P).
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>>             On 12 May 2014 16:33, Gonzalo Odiard
>>             <godiard at sugarlabs.org <mailto:godiard at sugarlabs.org>> wrote:
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>>                 This use node.js too, right?
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>>                 Gonzalo
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>>                 On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 11:26 AM, Daniel Narvaez
>>                 <dwnarvaez at gmail.com <mailto:dwnarvaez at gmail.com>> wrote:
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>>                     Hi,
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>>                     github recently open sourced the shell they used
>>                     to build the atom editor
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>>                     https://github.com/atom/atom-shell
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>>                     It sounds like it would be a pretty cool base for
>>                     a future html5 only sugar. Or event just
>>                     mostly-html5, it seems like this could be easily
>>                     integrated with python stuff.
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>>                     Also it could be a good wrapper for web
>>                     activities on GNOME/OS X/Windows.
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>>                     -- 
>>                     Daniel Narvaez
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>>                 -- 
>>                 Gonzalo Odiard
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>>                 SugarLabs - Software for children learning
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>>             -- 
>>             Daniel Narvaez
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>>         -- 
>>         Gonzalo Odiard
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>>         SugarLabs - Software for children learning
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>>     -- 
>>     Daniel Narvaez
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> -- 
> Gonzalo Odiard
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> SugarLabs - Software for children learning

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