[Sugar-devel] shipped languages/locales

[Daniel Narvaez]

I think upstream should definitely include all the translations. It's up to
distributions to exclude some languages if they want to... It's even
supported by image composing tools usually, I think.

I posted pull requests to modernize our setup to use LINGUAS, add the
missing translations and always check that all the po files are shipped.
Ideally pootle would update LINGUAS, but we can do without that.


On 29 March 2014 23:01, Gonzalo Odiard <godiard at sugarlabs.org> wrote:

> dnarvaez,
> Any idea about what should we do with this?
>
> Gonzalo
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 9:23 PM, Gonzalo Odiard <godiard at sugarlabs.org>wrote:
>
>> Yes, but is not a problem in the rpm, but in the sources repository.
>>
>> Gonzalo
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 8:15 PM, Jerry Vonau <me at jvonau.ca> wrote:
>>
>>> The hint was given in the initial email, alter ALL_LINGUAS= in
>>> /configure.ac
>>>
>>> Jerry
>>>
>>> > On March 26, 2014 at 1:27 PM Gonzalo Odiard <godiard at sugarlabs.org>
>>> > wrote:
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Maybe the reason is we don't have en_GB in the variable ALL_LINGUAS in
>>> > the
>>> >  Makefile.in
>>> > in sugar/po directory.
>>> >
>>> > In my system:
>>> > * we have a file en_GB.po sugar-build/sugar/po/
>>> > * the file is not copied
>>> > in sugar-build/build/out/install/share/locale/en_GB/LC_MESSAGES
>>> >
>>> > not sure how Makefile.in is created, here Makefile.in.in
>>> > is a link to /usr/share/intltool/Makefile.in.in
>>> >
>>> > Gonzalo
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 2:17 PM, Jerry Vonau <me at jvonau.ca> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > > I know there is no translations for en_AU in Pootle therefore not in
>>> > > sugar,
>>> > > but en_GB was used in the past as a substitute for this shortcoming.
>>> > > There
>>> > > are languages in Pootle that form the source tar file that becomes
>>> part
>>> > > of
>>> > > the source rpm, however the resulting installable rpm doesn't ship
>>> all
>>> > > the
>>> > > languages available from the source rpm. This thread started with the
>>> > > question should all the available translations from Pootle be shipped
>>> > > in
>>> > > the rpm, and that question still stands.
>>> > >
>>> > > Jerry
>>> > >
>>> > > > On March 26, 2014 at 11:53 AM Chris Leonard
>>> > > > <cjlhomeaddress at gmail.com>
>>> > > > wrote:
>>> > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > > > We do not have an en_AU language project in Pootle, so that does
>>> not
>>> > > > surprise me.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 12:10 PM, Jerry Vonau <me at jvonau.ca>
>>> wrote:
>>> > > > > That is strange, I don't see en_AU's translation file when
>>> > > > > extracting
>>> > > > > the
>>> > > > > files from the released rpm[1]. The src[2] rpm's tar file only
>>> > > > > lists
>>> > > > > en_GB
>>> > > > > and en_USA, but those are not in the released rpm and not en_AU
>>> at
>>> > > > > all.
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > Jerry
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > 1.
>>> > > > >
>>> > >
>>> http://harvest.one-education.org/public/au1b-updates/RPMS/sugar-0.100.1-10.olpcau.noarch.rpm
>>> > > > > 2.
>>> > > > >
>>> > >
>>> http://harvest.one-education.org/public/au1b-updates/SRPMS/sugar-0.100.1-10.olpcau.src.rpm
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > >> On March 26, 2014 at 9:07 AM Gonzalo Odiard
>>> > > > >> <godiard at sugarlabs.org>
>>> > > > >> wrote:
>>> > > > >>
>>> > > > >>
>>> > > > >> We included en_AU, but not en_GB.
>>> > > > >> Will be in the next image.
>>> > > > >>
>>> > > > >> Gonzalo
>>> > > > >>
>>> > > > >>
>>> > > > >> On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 10:59 AM, Chris Leonard
>>> > > > >> <cjlhomeaddress at gmail.com>wrote:
>>> > > > >>
>>> > > > >> > I believe AU makes their own build with en_GB.
>>> > > > >> >
>>> > > > >> > cjl
>>> > > > >> >
>>> > > > >> >
>>> > > > >> > On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 9:33 AM, Jerry Vonau <me at jvonau.ca>
>>> > > > >> > wrote:
>>> > > > >> > > Just wondering how AU is reacting without having the correct
>>> > > > >> > > spelling
>>> > > > >> > > for
>>> > > > >> > > 'favourites', 'neighbourhood' that comes with en_BR. This
>>> is a
>>> > > > >> > > regression
>>> > > > >> > > from DX4 that included such support. It would be better
>>> would
>>> > > > >> > > really
>>> > > > >> > > support en_AU thou.
>>> > > > >> > >
>>> > > > >> > > just my thoughts,
>>> > > > >> > >
>>> > > > >> > > Jerry
>>> > > > >> > >
>>> > > > >> > >> On March 26, 2014 at 6:59 AM Gonzalo Odiard
>>> > > > >> > >> <godiard at sugarlabs.org>
>>> > > > >> > >> wrote:
>>> > > > >> > >>
>>> > > > >> > >>
>>> > > > >> > >> I think was done to preserve space.
>>> > > > >> > >> Not sure if that is a concern now.
>>> > > > >> > >>
>>> > > > >> > >> Gonzalo
>>> > > > >> > >>
>>> > > > >> > >>
>>> > > > >> > >> On Sun, Mar 9, 2014 at 8:43 PM, me <me at jvonau.ca> wrote:
>>> > > > >> > >>
>>> > > > >> > >> > Hi All:
>>> > > > >> > >> >
>>> > > > >> > >> > I'm wondering if there is any reason why there are po
>>> files
>>> > > > >> > >> > generated
>>> > > > >> > >> > for
>>> > > > >> > >> > the source in git, these are included as .mo files in the
>>> > > > >> > >> > src
>>> > > > >> > >> > rpm,
>>> > > > >> > >> > but
>>> > > > >> > >> > not
>>> > > > >> > >> > shipped in the released rpms. Compare the list in git[1]
>>> > > > >> > >> > and
>>> > > > >> > >> > what
>>> > > > >> > >> > becomes
>>> > > > >> > >> > installed in the resulting rpm through "ALL_LINGUAS="[2].
>>> > > > >> > >> > Is
>>> > > > >> > >> > there
>>> > > > >> > >> > any
>>> > > > >> > >> > reason for this? Would it be worthwhile to ship all
>>> > > > >> > >> > available
>>> > > > >> > >> > translations?
>>> > > > >> > >> >
>>> > > > >> > >> > Jerry
>>> > > > >> > >> >
>>> > > > >> > >> > 1. https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar/tree/master/po
>>> > > > >> > >> > 2.
>>> > > > >> > >> >
>>> https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar/blob/master/configure.ac
>>> > > > >> > >> >
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>>> > > > >> > >> >
>>> > > > >> > >>
>>> > > > >> > >>
>>> > > > >> > >>
>>> > > > >> > >> --
>>> > > > >> > >> Gonzalo Odiard
>>> > > > >> > >>
>>> > > > >> > >> SugarLabs - Learning Software for children
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>>> > > > >>
>>> > > > >>
>>> > > > >>
>>> > > > >> --
>>> > > > >> Gonzalo Odiard
>>> > > > >>
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>>> >
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>> Gonzalo Odiard
>>
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> Gonzalo Odiard
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> SugarLabs - Learning Software for children
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