[Sugar-devel] Time spent on activity (was Best time, format for logging?)

[Walter Bender]

On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 12:19 PM, Martin Abente
<martin.abente.lahaye at gmail.com> wrote:
> That is just a separate idea,  but just to clarify, I am not suggesting
> doing it each second. But in some sufficiently small interval, in minutes.
> Quick question, aren't the activities saving metadata regularly now?
>
> Anyway, I think the approach I mentioned should work fine, as I don't see
> why we should try anything too complex when this data is not 100% reliable
> as is just the time the activity was opened.

Triggering on the events that already trigger write_file would
accomplish much the same thing, just not the case where the activity
is open and never in the background.

>
> just my opinion,
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 12:10 PM, Gonzalo Odiard <godiard at sugarlabs.org>
> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> If it doesn't close properly, it gets discarded naturally. No complex
>>> logic.
>>>
>>> The only "improvement" it occurs to me, is that we could "commit" this
>>> time regularly... so even if its laptops shutdown we could still get some
>>> not-so-garbage data.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Please no. This means write files many times, less battery use, etc.
>>
>> Gonzalo
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 11:42 AM, Gonzalo Odiard <godiard at sugarlabs.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 12:00 PM, Jerry Vonau <me at jvonau.ca> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Tony,
>>>>>
>>>>> > On March 28, 2014 at 7:38 AM Tony Anderson <tony_anderson at usa.net>
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > It is easier for users to understand shutting down the laptop by
>>>>> > pressing the power button twice than to use the shutdown in the XO
>>>>> > menu.
>>>>> > However,
>>>>> > this shutdown does not properly close open activities.
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>> Think the students need to learn how to use shutdown option in sugar,
>>>>> wonder how many have lost their work using that method.
>>>>>
>>>>> > When the power light goes red, I would assume it would be possible to
>>>>> > perform an orderly shutdown.
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't think there is a way for olpc's powerd to inform sugar that the
>>>>> XO
>>>>> is powering down. I'm pretty sure SoaS/sugar desktop is in the same
>>>>> boat,
>>>>> you tell sugar to shutdown the computer and that process uses dbus to
>>>>> tell
>>>>> the OS but nothing in sugar is listening for a dbus shutdown signal
>>>>> from
>>>>> outside of sugar to start an orderly shutdown.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This is a good point. If is not filled in a ticket, can you fill one?
>>>>
>>>> Gonzalo
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Jerry
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> > The record is of an activity session so maintaining a list of session
>>>>> > information seems logical.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > One option is to record the launch time in the stop time at launch so
>>>>> > that the metadata shows that a an activity session was started but
>>>>> > not
>>>>> > properly closed.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Tony
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On 03/27/2014 09:45 PM, sugar-devel-request at lists.sugarlabs.org
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>> > > I was in doubt for two reasons: 1. because unlike launch_time, this
>>>>> > > spent-times metadata will not be saved if the activity does not end
>>>>> > > properly: could be a crash, a programming error, end of battery,
>>>>> > > etc.
>>>>> > > So the item N of spent-times will not necessarily correspont to
>>>>> > > item N
>>>>> > > of launch-times.
>>>>> >
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>>>>
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>> Gonzalo Odiard
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