[Sugar-devel] Subject: Re: Regarding JS collaboration project

[Gonzalo Odiard]

How would work the collaboration if no schoolserver is present?
node.js would be a sugar dependency?

Gonzalo


On Sun, Mar 9, 2014 at 12:23 PM, Lionel Laské <lionel at olpc-france.org>wrote:

>
> Nice sum up Prasoon !
>
> +1 for the node.js server back office.
> It will be easy to install it on a XSCE server and I'm starting to include
> a node.js part to my Sugarizer Server so it could work too on Sugarizer.
>
> Just as reminder, Suraj and I worked some months ago on:
> - A feature list of what is need for collaboration in Sugar [1]
> - A very basic implementation of websocket presence API on node.js [2].
>
> Unfortunately none of us had time to work more on this. But it could be a
> good start point for the collaboration project.
>
>                  Lionel
>
> [1]
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1FZRv0gSV--5Y4dvV9C9dk9K-LT7kEQEwQmX_xVX9H-s/edit
> [2] https://github.com/surajgillespie/SugarPresenceAPI
>
>
>
>> >
>> >  > Hi Sam. Sorry for the late response but I was occupied with
>> academics.>> Anyway, I need to bother you again with some questions.>> So,
>> I went through the thread by Emil Dudev and read the arguments he made> in
>> favour of not using the mozilla node server and using telepathy instead.>
>> To that, dnarvaez said that using the node server might be a better idea>
>> since the current protocol is very unstable.>> Now, I am somewhat familiar
>> with sugar codebase but certainly not enough> to actually discuss the
>> merits or demerits of either of these approaches> (although personally, I
>> like better the idea of all communication happening> over websocket via a
>> node server). So, the final decision on which approach> to take will be in
>> the hands of those more experienced. But as I said> before, I would prefer
>> it if we use the websocket protocol to have this> kind of architecture:>>
>> |Sugar Web Activity| <-----> |Sugar Shell|>    \>     \>  websocket>
>> \> |Node Server|>        />       /
>>  >      /> |Sugar Web Activity| <-----> |Sugar Shell|>> instead of the
>> usual telepathy based communication. This I would like> because:> 1. We'll
>> be able to use the mozilla server with modifications as needed.> 2. We'll
>> be able to use the **huge** node.js ecosystem for realtime> communication
>> in any way we want! And, websocket is very versatile -  we> can send pretty
>> much any binary data over the network.>> Also, I've worked with node before
>> and found the communication to be quite> reliable (which it is not with the
>> current XMPP based protocol, if I> understood dnarvaez correctly). That
>> said, I've only tested out my node> based work with a handful of people,
>> so...>> The only downside is the need to have a node server running. For
>> the case> when there is not internet connectivity, I think we can make a
>> set of> scripts that can be called to run a node server on the one of the
>> machines,> say that of the teacher, and all others will connect to it. And
>> of course,> this process nee
>>
>>  ds to be simple.>> Anyway, it just seems right to me to augment JS
>> activities with a JS based> collaboration framework. But of course, I don't
>> really know the details all> too well to be making the decision here.>> So,
>> can you please comment on this? Once this decision is made, I can> start
>> working on my application.>> Thanks
>> >
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