[Sugar-devel] Pootle SOS

[Martin Abente]

Hey Bernie!

Did you get the time to update the machine?


On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 7:56 PM, Matthew Ciao <matthew at laptop.org.au> wrote:

> Guys please let me know if there's anything I can do to help!
>
>
> On 25 July 2014 04:01, Martin Abente <martin.abente.lahaye at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hey Bernie!
>>
>> I (literally) just finished my first round of tests setting up a pootle
>> 2.5.1.1 instance from scratch. The results are promising:
>>
>>    1. Setting up a pootle instance from scratch was very
>>    straightforward.
>>    2. Creating a new project and integrating it with git versioning was
>>    also surprisingly straightforward. In fact, no custom bits were require to
>>    make pootle import Sugar project and start making commits to the remote
>>    repository.
>>
>> Other premature comments:
>>
>>    - pootle imported _almost_ all the languages, but I had to manually
>>    add languages like "guarani". I still don't know why, ideas?
>>    - I still need to check the SL wiki to have some ideas of how it
>>    would be better to organize the projects. IIRC, our previous pootle
>>    instance followed the same sugar modules like sucrose, fructose, etc.
>>    Suggestions?
>>
>>
>> I don't think I will have the time to work on this during the weeking
>> (because of the wedding), but if you could make sure the server is ready, I
>> can continue over the week.
>>
>
> Bernie if you don't have time to work on what Martin needs I can step in,
> no problems at all.
>
> Cheers!
>
>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 1:03 PM, Bernie Innocenti <bernie at codewiz.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Martin is taking Pootle, but if you have time to help with it, I think
>>> it would be appreciated.
>>>
>>> I think I'll start the work on Sunday. Martin, would you have time?
>>>
>>>
>>> On 07/21/2014 07:08 AM, Matthew Ciao wrote:
>>> > Hi folks,
>>> >
>>> > it looks like you're already in a good position in terms of help from
>>> > rgs and/or icarito so I don't think I would be very useful at the
>>> meeting.
>>> >
>>> > This said, if all goes bad please involve me in the Pootle mission as I
>>> > am more than keen to lend a hand! :)
>>> >
>>> > Best,
>>> >
>>> > Matthew
>>> >
>>> > On Jul 21, 2014 4:15 AM, "Bernie Innocenti" <bernie at codewiz.org
>>> > <mailto:bernie at codewiz.org>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >     +rgs, +icarito (both of which expressed interest in supporting
>>> Pootle)
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >     On 07/20/2014 01:36 PM, Martin Abente wrote:
>>> >     > Hello everyone,
>>> >     >
>>> >     > What about investing some minutes this week to talk about
>>> Pootle's
>>> >     > status, what is missing and how can we get it back to life?
>>> >     >
>>> >     > I suggest this Wednesday 23 July, 13:00 UTC.
>>> >
>>> >     It's a bit early for me, and definitely too early for rgs.
>>> >     Can we do 15:00 UTC?
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >     In case I miss the meeting, here's a full dump of my mind:
>>> >
>>> >      - you, rgs and icarito already have root to
>>> newpootle.sugarlabs.org
>>> >     <http://newpootle.sugarlabs.org>
>>> >
>>> >      - full backups of the old pootle machine are on freedom, and all
>>> of you
>>> >     have root access there too
>>> >
>>> >      - Sysadmin documentation is in the usual place (the wiki). There
>>> are
>>> >     several pages written by the previous Pootle maintainers:
>>> >
>>> >       http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Service/translate
>>> >       http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Service/Pootle
>>> >       http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Service/Pootle2.5
>>> >       http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Machine/pootle
>>> >
>>> >      The documentation needs to be consolidated into a single page and
>>> >     updated. *PLEASE*, don't neglect this step; it will save a lot of
>>> time
>>> >     to future maintainers.
>>> >
>>> >      - The newpootle machine is still running Ubuntu 12.04 LTS. I
>>> strongly
>>> >     recommend upgrading it to 14.04 (trusty) before proceeding. It
>>> won't
>>> >     take more than 1h of work and I can do this.
>>> >
>>> >      - There's an outdated instance of Pootle already running on
>>> newpootle.
>>> >     It was setup by a previous volunteer, but never transitioned into
>>> >     production due to difficulties with the git integration (iirc, cjl
>>> might
>>> >     have more on this).
>>> >
>>> >      - I strongly recommend upgrading to the latest release of Pootle
>>> before
>>> >     doing anything else.
>>> >
>>> >      - Then, the database and data from the backups needs to be
>>> restored and
>>> >     probably converted to the Pootle 2.5 format (good luck with Django
>>> db
>>> >     migration!)
>>> >
>>> >      - Finally, the part where all past maintainers seem to get stuck:
>>> make
>>> >     the Pootle <-> git integration work. I don't know what the actual
>>> >     problem is; pushing to git should be a basic feature of a
>>> translation
>>> >     system and I'm surprised this can't be made to work out of the box.
>>> >
>>> >      - When everything works (and please test it well, Pootle likes to
>>> crash
>>> >     and burn under load), we can change the DNS to point the CNAME
>>> >     translate.sugarlabs.org <http://translate.sugarlabs.org> to
>>> >     newpootle. Follow the Service/nameserver
>>> >     documentation page to do this, or I can do it in 2 minutes.
>>> >
>>> >     --
>>> >      _ // Bernie Innocenti
>>> >      \X/  http://codewiz.org
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>  _ // Bernie Innocenti
>>>  \X/  http://codewiz.org
>>>
>>
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