[Sugar-devel] Fwd: [b2g] Introducing B2G to x86

[Christian Stroetmann]

Samuel:

Im sorry to say, but I wished nothing in this respect, like discussing 
legal issues with somebody or reaching an agreement with Sugar Labs, 
because the Sugar learning software is licensed under the GPL.

I only sent an e-mail to this mailing list, because Daniel Narvaez 
started this thread mentioning a combination of Sugar and Boot to Gecko 
(B2G; officially called Firefox OS; Gecko is the web browser rendering 
engine of Firefox) of the Mozilla foundation, which exactly is Sugarfox, 
and because I think that if somebody starts a private, public or 
commercial project, product or service related with Sugar, then it would 
be nice if she/he informs the related groups of Sugar on their mailing 
lists.

In relation with the legal issues, it was Lionel at first and then 
others, who said something about trademarks, while I said directly in my 
second e-mail that it is irrelevant here.
But despite of this, I think that legal issues are important to know as 
well for developers volunteering in open source software projects that 
go beyond questions related with open source software licenses. So I 
simply wanted to be polite and have answered the questions.



Have fun
Christian Stroetmann
> Christian:
>
> This is an email mailing list primarily made of volunteers.  To the 
> best of my knowledge no one involved with this email thread so far 
> (including me) is authorized to act on their own on behalf of Sugar 
> Labs or OLPC.
>
> Likewise, no individual you are speaking with likely can legally bind 
> either Sugar Labs or OLPC to an agreement.
>
> If you wish to discussion trademarks or the rights to features, I 
> recommend contacting either of their legal counsels or registered 
> agents directly.
>
> I would further recommend that everyone hold off on saying anything 
> else on this email thread.  This is something for the lawyers to 
> handle, and none of us are legal counsel.
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 4:30 AM, Christian Stroetmann 
> <stroetmann at ontolab.com <mailto:stroetmann at ontolab.com>> wrote:
>
>     Hello Paul
>
>
>     You wrote:
>
>         james wrote:
>         >  On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 12:55:36AM +0100, Christian
>         Stroetmann wrote:
>         > >  For sure, there is the One Tablet Per Child (OTPC)
>         respectively One
>         > >  Pad Per Child (OPPC) project by my business division
>         intellitablet
>         > >  since July 2012 (see [1]).
>         > >  You are contracted by OLPC? So, please could you take a
>         look and
>         > >  tell me when the OLPC announced their tablet computer.
>         >
>         >  No, I do not have access to those records.
>         >
>         >  Relying only on public record, http://blog.laptop.org/ the
>         multi-child
>         >  XO Tablet manufactured by Vivitar and OLPC was announced as
>         available
>         >  for retail sale at Walmart.com on July 16 2013.  There was an
>         >  announcement before that on January 9 2013 associated with CES.
>         >
>         >  I don't see how this is relevant to sugar-devel@ mailing list.
>         >
>         > >  [1] intelliTablet Announcement One Tablet Per Child
>         (OTPC) and One
>         > >  Pad Per Child (OPPC/OP&sup2;C) #1
>         > > www.ontomax.com/newsarchive/2012/july.htm#17.July.2012
>         <http://www.ontomax.com/newsarchive/2012/july.htm#17.July.2012>
>
>         from the pictures at that link, it seems to be related to the
>         XO-3,
>         which, while under developmentd for a very long time, was never
>         released, nor produced in more than prototype quantities.
>          and, it was a
>         very different beast than the "XO Tablet" produced by vivitar.  (i
>         know that james knows this -- i'm just clarifying for others.)
>
>         paul
>
>
>         =---------------------
>           paul fox, pgf at laptop.org <mailto:pgf at laptop.org>
>
>     Thank you for your clarification.
>     Indeed, the One Tablet Per Child project was started by
>     intelliTablet, because the XO-3 never came to market.
>
>     But form my point of view the chronology has some more facts to list:
>     1. The OLPC developed the concept and a design study of the XO-2
>     in 2008.
>     2. I showed a picture of the XO-1Beta of the year 2005 on one of
>     my websites [1]. Because I thought the XO-1 is already a
>     convertible laptop respectively tablet laptop (see also [2]) that
>     features a touchscreen, due to the reason that I confused touch
>     pad with touchscreen, I described the XO-1 as "Tablet Computer
>     Convertible One Laptop per Child (OLPC) XO-1" (move the mouse on
>     the image to see the description).
>     3. The OLPC developed the concept and prototypes of the XO-3 and
>     presented it on the CES in January 2012 for example.
>     4. Because the OLPC presented the XO-2 and the XO-3, but no direct
>     successor of the XO-1, my business division intelliTablet came
>     back to my concept of the convertible tablet computer variant of
>     the XO-1 (see again point 2.) and presented it on the 17th of July
>     2012 and 19th of July 2012 ([3] and [4]). The device should be an
>     integration of the XO-1 and the XO-3, or said in other words, an
>     XO-1 with a (multi-)touchscreen.
>     5. 8 days later the OLPC presented the XO-4 Touch in a press release.
>     6. Wikipedia describes the XO-4 in the following way [5]: "The XO
>     4 is a refresh of the XO 1 to 1.75 with a later ARM CPU and an
>     optional touch screen."
>     7. Due to these points, I claimed in my first e-mail to this
>     thread that "The One Tablet Per Child (OTPC) project is very well
>     known by the OLPC headquarter as the XO-1 with touchscreen is."
>
>     Maybe, some details are not correct.
>
>
>
>     Have fun
>     Christian Stroetmann
>
>     [1] Original vs.
>     Inspirationwww.ontomax.com/newsarchive/2010/january.htm#07.January.2010
>     <http://Inspirationwww.ontomax.com/newsarchive/2010/january.htm#07.January.2010>
>     [2] Wikipedia Laptop, subsection Convertible laptop
>     en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convertible_laptop#Convertible_laptop
>     <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convertible_laptop#Convertible_laptop>
>     [3] intelliTablet Announcement One Tablet Per Child (OTPC) and One
>     Pad Per Child (OPPC/OP&sup2;C) #1
>     www.ontomax.com/newsarchive/2012/july.htm#17.July.2012
>     <http://www.ontomax.com/newsarchive/2012/july.htm#17.July.2012>
>     [4] intelliTablet Announcement One Tablet Per Child (OTPC) and One
>     Pad Per Child (OPPC/OP&sup2;C) #2
>     www.ontomax.com/newsarchive/2012/july.htm#19.July.2012
>     <http://www.ontomax.com/newsarchive/2012/july.htm#19.July.2012>
>     [5] Wikipedia OLPC XO-1, XO 4 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XO_laptop
>
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