[Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Recommendations for running Sugar on standard hardware (non-XOs)?
Iain Brown Douglas
iain at browndouglas.plus.com
Wed Apr 16 13:25:00 EDT 2014
On Wed, 2014-04-16 at 18:53 +0700, Sam Parkinson wrote:
> Hi,
>
>
> Cool tutorial! Sorry about the crashes, I think I have found some of
> the issues but will have to look further. (I committed some fixes to
> the git though). Also now I see which bits of the ui are confusing so
> I will fix that.
I see that I need to use max 800x600 images.
If I wanted to remove all the <h1></h1> from every slide I should do it
more carefully. I did wonder if <h1></h1> is *required*, but I think
not. I should get all the words saved, before adding images. The
opposite of what I tried!
I am guessing that the "Style" must be decided and set, before starting
work.
I am not sure how to optimise the location of the images before starting
work.
When you brought up the subject, I had been playing with Sugarizing
http://www.w3.org/Talks/Tools/Slidy2/Overview.html#%281%29 - it would
probably be a long time before *I* had it ready to share though!
>
> [Now on topic]
> I was just wondering, can that command you used be used to move it to
> the hdd? I think the installing to the hdd is what we need. Anyway I
> will setup a virtual box an give it a go (don't worry, I will not
> forget this time).
I am not sure if I have tried that, I imagine it would work. An
advantage of a hdd install is that, I think, the uncompressed image
*sometimes* seems to handle auto-saving the Journal better. In my
experience you need more patience with a USB stick than with hdd
install.
Liveinst is the command I would use for a hdd install.
hdd install is good for using an old "spare" machine, but I think that
the philosophy of a child having their very own learning environment by
a USB stick is one I would like to try to make more easy for new sugar
learners.
Iain
>
> Sam
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 6:04 PM, Iain Brown Douglas
> <iain at browndouglas.plus.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 2014-04-08 at 23:07 +0100, Iain Brown Douglas wrote:
> > On Tue, 2014-04-08 at 20:54 +0000, Sam Parkinson wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I think we need to make a really simple tutorial and put
> it on the
> > > wiki home page. Just something with the link to the iso
> and lots of
> > > screenshots :)
> > >
> > > I might have a go on the weekend.
>
>
> @Sam Slides 1 is splendid for this job, well done.
>
> I had a first run, which produced this: http://is.gd/0kbeMZ
> It is unfinished of course, but this number of slides seemed
> to crash
> 3GB of RAM, and the images seem to prevent saving to Journal
> in SoaS. I
> will report when I understand why!
>
> I will re-work it, and probably shorten it. Next time I will
> deliver
> commands straight from the Slide presentation.
>
> Any other feedback welcome!
>
> > >
> > > Or maybe we could try to make and 'install' activity for
> soas?
>
>
> A script.py to identify and unmount the USB stick and create
> the
> appropriate command, could be a first step. I wonder if the
> script could
> then be delivered by this sort of presentation?
>
>
> >
> > Both very good ideas, to which I have been giving thought.
> >
> > It would be good to fix a "single" method to document - my
> vote would be
> > for along the lines of [1]. It would be good to have
> comments on whether
> > this "suits all".
>
>
> :"-) (Suits all) as in, meets a reasonably high proportion of
> use cases.
>
> Iain
>
>
> > [1]
> >
> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Testing/Reports/Sugar_on_a_Stick_Persistence
> >
> >
> > Iain
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Sam
> > >
> > > On Apr 9, 2014 4:17 AM, "Thomas Gilliard"
> <satellitgo at gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > On 4/8/2014 9:39 AM, Christoph Derndorfer wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi David,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > thanks for the link.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Given that this page was last updated back in
> 2012 I'm
> > > > wondering whether anyone knows if the
> instructions are still
> > > > up-to-date and working?
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > In general this is still valid. Anaconda - the
> fedora
> > > installer has changed but is still accessed from
> root terminal
> > > in the listview of f3 ( sugar-desktop and SoaS.)
> of F20 [1]
> > > and F21 (rawhide) [2] with "liveinst'.
> > >
> > > Tom Gilliard
> > > satellit
> > >
> > > [1] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Fedora_20
> > > [2] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Fedora_21
> > > > Cheers,
> > > > Christoph
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 8:19 AM, David Beveridge
> > > > <bevhost at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > I would try this method..,
> > > >
> > > >
> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Tutorials/Installation/Install_with_liveinst
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 4:36 AM,
> Christoph Derndorfer
> > > > <christoph.derndorfer at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > Hey everyone,
> > > > >
> > > > > a guy I know wants to set up a couple
> of older
> > > > laptops with Sugar in a sort
> > > > > of "learning lab" in Germany and asked
> me what the
> > > > best route for doing that
> > > > > was. Since I haven't dabbled in that
> area in quite
> > > > a while I'm not sure what
> > > > > the best recommendations are these
> days:
> > > > >
> > > > > * using the SoaS version from late
> December?
> > > > > * installing Fedora 20 and running
> Sugar on top of
> > > > that?
> > > > > * something entirely different?
> > > > >
> > > > > Any comments, suggestions, links, etc.
> would be
> > > > much appreciated.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > Christoph
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Christoph Derndorfer
> > > > >
> > > > > volunteer, OLPC (Austria)
> [www.olpc.at]
> > > > > editor, OLPC News [www.olpcnews.com]
> > > > > co-founder, TechnikBasteln®
> > > > [www.technikbasteln.net]
> > > > >
> > > > > e-mail: christoph at derndorfer.eu
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
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> > > >
> > > >
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> > > > co-founder, TechnikBasteln®
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