[Sugar-devel] Private vs Public conversations.

Daniel Narvaez dwnarvaez at gmail.com
Tue Oct 29 07:16:17 EDT 2013


Sounds great to me!

On Tuesday, 29 October 2013, David Farning wrote:

> I would like to thank everyone who has provided valuable feedback by
> participating on this thread.
>
> The three things I am going to takeway from the the thread are:
> 1. Jame's point about my position about not representing the median.
> Due to my history and role in the ecosystem, I have upset some
> apple-carts :(
> 2. Martin's point about the right hand not always being aware of what
> the left hand is doing. This unfortunately seems to happen too
> frequently.
> 3. Finally, and most importantly, Daniel's point  about getting back
> to the business of improving Sugar.
>
> My proposal is that Activity Central make the next step of funding two
> developers to work on HTML5 and JS. If we can find a mutually
> beneficial relationship around this, we can see how we can expand the
> relationship in the future.
>
> Seem reasonable?
>
> On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 7:53 PM, Daniel Narvaez <dwnarvaez at gmail.com<javascript:;>>
> wrote:
> > On 29 October 2013 01:14, David Farning <dfarning at activitycentral.com<javascript:;>
> >
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> As two Data points:
> >> In a private conversation with an Association employee they told me
> >> that they conciser Activity Central a competitor because Activity
> >> Central increased deployments expectations. Their strategy with regard
> >> to Activity Central was to _not_ accept patches upstream with the goal
> >> of causing Activity Central and Dextrose to collapse under its their
> >> weight. As it was private conversation I am not sure how widely spread
> >> the opinion was held.
> >
> >
> > The patch queue is currently empty. In the last six months only one
> patchset
> > was rejected. It was by Activity Central and it was rejected by me (not
> an
> > OLPC employee) for purely technical reasons. The proof being that the
> same
> > patchset landed after being cleaned up and resubmitted properly by
> another
> > Activity Central developer.
> >
> > More in general, no single developer is in charge of patch reviewing,
> OLPC
> > couldn't keep code out of the tree for non-technical reason even if they
> > wanted to. More specifically the ability to approve patches was offered
> to
> > one Activity Central developer, which never used it.
> >
> >> Recently there was a call for help testing HTML5 and JS. Two
> >> developers Code and Roger have been writing proof of concept
> >> activities. They have been receiving extensive off-list help getting
> >> started. But, interestingly, their on-list request for clarification
> >> about how to test datastore was met with silence.
> >
> >
> > Mailing list posts going unanswered isn't really uncommon in free
> software
> > projects. But most of the time it just means that no one knows the
> answer or
> > everyone is too busy.
> >
> > Only me and Manuel are usually answering about HTML5. I have not answered
> > because... gmail put those messages in my spam folder, sigh! Most likely
> the
> > same happened to Manuel or he has been busy. (I need to take some sleep
> now
> > but I'll try to answer asap).
>
>
>
> --
> David Farning
> Activity Central: http://www.activitycentral.com
>


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Daniel Narvaez
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