[Sugar-devel] Flash and SWF in Browse build 13.2.0

[David Leeming]

Hi no they are out of the box (locked). It is out of my hands, that's how there were delivered. We need a way of downloading all the files and dependencies to a flash drive and installing Flash from that. 

Previously we were using XO 1s with release 11.3.1. I used yumdownloader to get all the Gstreamer codec files. I then added the latest flash rpm from Adobe. Then run a script to run all the rpms from a flashdrive. It used to work fine with flash viewable in Browse v129. FLV files would download by default in Browse and could be opened in Jukebox.

As it is, with 13.2.0 if I do not install the flash plugin, emebedded swf objects display OK in Browse but if you navigate to a FLV file the browser Flash player starts up and it does not play (missing plugin). You can right click and Keep the file and play it in Jukebox (up to v26) if the Gstreamer codecs have been installed using the method described above, but without Flash, and with downgrading of Jukebox to v26. That's workable with a script but we just have this new issue with the nspluginwrapper. It is not a critical issue but just means things become more fiddly for the kids with playing FLV videos. Also Youtube won't play but as they have no Internet it doesn't matter.

David 


-----Original Message-----
From: quozl at laptop.org [mailto:quozl at laptop.org] 
Sent: Thursday, 3 October 2013 9:12 a.m.
To: David Leeming
Cc: 'Sugar-dev Devel'
Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] Flash and SWF in Browse build 13.2.0

Sure, I'll put something together using the xo-custom infrastructure
that Jerry (bless his fingers) did.  But, the laptops _must_ be
unlocked, can you confirm they are unlocked?

If they are locked, how do you deliver customisations?

On Thu, Oct 03, 2013 at 09:06:18AM +1100, David Leeming wrote:
> James,
> 
> Turns out it's a question of doing things slightly differently. Pardon my earlier impatience.
> 
> One issue I have: 
> 
> from http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Adobe_Flash#Installation_on_XO-1_and_XO-1.5 
> 
> in OLPC OS 12.1.0 or later[1], wrap the plugin, paste this: 
> 
> yum -y install nspluginwrapper && \
> /usr/lib/nspluginwrapper/npconfig -n \
>     -p nswrapper_32_32 \
>     -d /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins-wrapped \
>     -i /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so
> 
> We need a method of doing this offline (I have to train someone in a remote location with no Internet access to do this with 150 XOs already delivered). Would appreciate advice on how to grab the files needed and run the above from my install script, with everything on a flashdrive
> 
> 
> David
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sugar-devel-bounces at lists.sugarlabs.org [mailto:sugar-devel-bounces at lists.sugarlabs.org] On Behalf Of James Cameron
> Sent: Tuesday, 1 October 2013 1:05 p.m.
> To: David Leeming
> Cc: 'Sugar-dev Devel'
> Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] Flash and SWF in Browse build 13.2.0
> 
> No worries.
> 
> Just to speculate a little bit: the page
> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Adobe_Flash had some big edits yesterday,
> because it was quite out of date, and either:
> 
> 1.  a mistake may have been made and you followed the mistake, or;
> 
> 2.  you used the old instructions which neglected to wrap the plugin.
> 
> Also, it would appear you have two issues, not one.  Let's keep them
> separate and not conflate them.
> 
> On Tue, Oct 01, 2013 at 12:29:28PM +1100, David Leeming wrote:
> > Hi James,
> > 
> > I'll carefully reproduce the issue and provide complete information later today, rather than confuse things further!
> > 
> > David 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: quozl at laptop.org [mailto:quozl at laptop.org] 
> > Sent: Tuesday, 1 October 2013 12:15 p.m.
> > To: David Leeming
> > Cc: 'Sugar-dev Devel'
> > Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] Flash and SWF in Browse build 13.2.0
> > 
> > The information you provide doesn't seem to match my experience of
> > what is available and what works, so I'll probe the problem
> > description a little bit:
> > 
> > - when you said you upgraded to 13.2.0, what is it you upgraded from?
> >   I ask so that I can consider the differences.
> > 
> > - is there an example of this multimedia content consisting of .swf
> >   objects embedded in web pages?  I ask so that I can try to reproduce
> >   the problem quickly.
> > 
> > - are you using the same version of Browse as supplied with 13.2.0, or
> >   a version delivered by Software Update or customisation?  I ask so
> >   that I can try to reproduce the problem.
> > 
> > - is this the exact OLPC OS 13.2.0 or is it a build by someone else?
> >   I ask so that I can match version metadata.
> > 
> > - does the content play properly in Epiphany or Firefox?  I ask
> >   in order to rule out various software layers.
> > 
> > Regarding your opinion that a new release keeps us on our toes, I
> > agree, and it seems the community testing has been lacking, and
> > finding these problems at the point of deployment is an indicator of
> > that.  I wish people would have done this testing _before_ we ran out
> > of time.
> > 
> > devel@ is a more appropriate mailing list for problems that are
> > specific to OLPC OS and not to Browse, but let's see how far we get
> > with the assumption that it is Browse at fault.
> > 
> > On Tue, Oct 01, 2013 at 11:49:48AM +1100, David Leeming wrote:
> > > XO-1.5 with release 13.2.0
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > > We have been providing educational resources on the school servers including
> > > multimedia content from UNESCO, .swf objects embedded in web pages. Users
> > > access it with Browse. It is necessary to install the Flash plugin (latest rpm
> > > downloaded from Adobe).
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > > However, when  upgrading to 13.2.0 the pages now display “missing plugin” in
> > > the placeholders for the swf objects.
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > > Similarly, we have been providing the Khan Academy videos (flv), which were
> > > accessed using Browse to navigate to a folder on the school server and clicking
> > > on the flv file required, which caused Browse to download the video to the
> > > journal, from where it could be run in Jukebox (versions up to 26). Now instead
> > > a player is displayed in Browse but nothing happens. If I take the same files
> > > and put them on a USB stick and play them from that, it opens Jukebox and plays
> > > them perfectly well, so the Gstreamer codecs have installed OK.  
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > > How can I get Browse to play the swf objects as it used to?
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > > How can I get Browse to download rather than play in a player that doesn’t work
> > > (or how can I get that to work)?
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > > Always keeps one on ones toes when a new release comes out. However it’s hugely
> > > time consuming.
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > > David Leeming
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > 
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> > 
> > -- 
> > James Cameron
> > http://quozl.linux.org.au/
> > 
> > 
> > 
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