[Sugar-devel] TamTamMini

Daniel Narvaez dwnarvaez at gmail.com
Sat Nov 16 19:00:03 EST 2013


So, you and Activity Central are not even trying to work with upstream
here. Can I ask WHY?

We had a lot of theoretical discussions on how to work together recently.
Well, it's all pretty useless if these are the concrete behaviors.


On 17 November 2013 00:50, Flavio Danesse <fdanesse at activitycentral.com>wrote:

> I am aware of the problem, why not send any patch .
> But it seemed important to inform the work I did in case the application
> mantiners somehow wanted to use it as this is the version that is used on
> all machines of Ceibal after passing the Activity Central testing makes
> before entering the applications in distribution image dextrose .
>
> On the other hand, for me it is a problem if the changes I make do not
> apply in the official repository in each new version I have to re-do the
> same thing again, so I decided to make this particular repository as I had
> to repeat the work several times.
>
> On the issue of separating the application from the rest of the suite, I
> did because it was the only way to understand it, correct the code and port
> it to gtk3. The code of the suite is filled with errors and unused files.
> Now, this application is much easier to maintain and extend. The same
> applies to the translation patch, most not used by TamTamMini.
>
> On the other hand, may be easier for you if I am in charge of maintaining
> the application.
>
>
> 2013/11/16 Gonzalo Odiard <gonzalo at laptop.org>
>
>> Hi Flavio,
>> I am maintaining TamTam suite right now.
>>
>> While I appreciate your work, you are doing it again difficult for a
>> maintainer work with you.
>> I have talked about this in other opportunities, then you already know it.
>>
>> You have decided important changes without trying to ask the opinion of
>> the maintainer,
>> and sent a giant change with all the work already done, then for me is
>> only
>> a option of "take all, or nothing".
>>
>> There are many things I would do in a different way:
>> * Tamtam Mini port to gtk3 was already started. Needed a lot more work,
>> but the activity run.
>> * Is really difficult maintain different versions for every machine.
>> * The TamTam suite was in a single repository because by example have a
>> big number
>> of strings to translate, and we avoid needing multiply the translators
>> work.
>> * The patches yiu sent are huge. Ask to any other maintainer, and will
>> say the same.
>>
>> You are putting me in a really difficult situation, this is not the way
>> to work together.
>>
>> Gonzalo
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 9:02 PM, Flavio Danesse <
>> fdanesse at activitycentral.com> wrote:
>>
>>>  *I wanted to inform maintainers TamTam :*
>>>
>>> These last few days I've added a little love to TamTamMini.
>>>
>>> This is an application that has been added Ceibal instruments and small
>>> arrangements over the years, but for various reasons, changes were never
>>> implemented in the official repository, so that at the launch of each
>>> version, I was obliged back to modify the application to meet the
>>> specifications of Ceibal.
>>>
>>> To not have to continue with that methodology, I spent several days to
>>> fix, clean and improve implementation.
>>>
>>> *The work done was as follows:*
>>>
>>>
>>>    - TamTamMini separated from other Suite applications, deleting files
>>>    that were not used.
>>>    - I deleted the images were not used or those that were not
>>>    necessary.
>>>    - Corrected, I simplified and cleaned up the code.
>>>
>>> As a result , the application occupies least 5 mb.
>>>
>>>    - I ported the application to gtk3 .
>>>    - I built separate versions for xo gtk2 and gtk3 1.0 , x 1.5 , x
>>>    1.75 and one for Magalães. Each version contains the corrections necessary
>>>    for proper operation as both gtk gtk3 for each particular machine.
>>>
>>>
>>> All versions were tested in each of the aforementioned machines and all
>>> functioning properly. It only remains to make some very minor repairs on
>>> gtk3 versions .
>>>
>>> I wish that the maintainers of the repository with TamTam saw all this
>>> content for the purpose of seeing whether it is possible to unify into a
>>> single repository TamTamMini .
>>>
>>> Link: https://github.com/fdanesse/TamTamMini
>>>
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>>
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