[Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Sugar oversight board meeting

[Daniel Narvaez]

Is 3D support for the BBB not planned/possible? I know we don't require it
at the moment but it would be nice to have in the future (and it
*might* speed up things even with the current software...).

On Tuesday, 5 November 2013, Peter Robinson wrote:

> On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 1:16 PM, Daniel Narvaez <dwnarvaez at gmail.com<javascript:;>>
> wrote:
> > Do you know what's the status of graphics with the BeagleBone Black?
>
> Sugar on the BBB should work fine with the modesetting driver OOTB
> (I've still got some kernel bits to do in Fedora, 3.12 should be much
> better) as it doesn't need 3D. The i.MX6 devices (WandBard, Utilite,
> CuBox-i etc) should have accelerated graphics in the F-21 time frame.
>
> Peter
>
> > On Tuesday, 5 November 2013, Peter Robinson wrote:
> >>
> >> On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 12:17 AM, Daniel Narvaez <dwnarvaez at gmail.com<javascript:;>
> >
> >> wrote:
> >> > On 4 November 2013 23:05, Peter Robinson <pbrobinson at gmail.com<javascript:;>>
> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Sugar on Android or the Raspberry Pi might have an interesting
> >> >> marketing effect but the result would be truly terrible as it would
> be
> >> >> essentially unusable and have a terrible experience.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Can you elaborate on why you think it would be a terrible experience
> on
> >> > the
> >> > Raspberry Pi? I never tested it there, I was just hoping it could be a
> >> > nice
> >> > target...
> >>
> >> It's generally not particularly fast and has a number of HW problems,
> >> as a "look at how cool we are" I wouldn't be chosing the RPi to run
> >> sugar on Android, even on Linux the experience isn't great.
> >>
> >> >> There are a
> >> >> number of other ARM devices that sugar runs beautifully on though.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > It would also be interesting to know more about these devices. With
> OLPC
> >> > going the Android way, I wish there was at least one popular enough
> >> > device
> >> > on which we could provide a really good experience (with our scarce
> >> > resources).
> >>
> >> Well Fedora produces SoaS on ARM images that will run on any of the
> >> ARM platforms Fedora supports. I would be looking at BeagleBone Black
> >> [1] (improvements still needed, should be much better soon), Wandboard
> >> [2], Utilite [3] (little brother to the TrimSlice) or the CuBox-i [4].
> >> The last of which has the cheapest model at $45 in a case and will be
> >> much faster, we should have OOTB graphics for the last 3 devices (all
> >> based on the i.MX6) in Fedora 21 (maybe later in the F-20 cycle) and
> >> the experience will be much better for little to no price increase
> >> over the RPi.
> >>
> >> [1] http://beagleboard.org/Products/BeagleBone%20Black
> >> [2] http://www.wandboard.org/
> >> [3] http://utilite-computer.com/
> >> [4] http://cubox-i.com/table/
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Daniel Narvaez
> >
>


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Daniel Narvaez
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