[Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Sugar oversight board meeting

[Daniel Narvaez]

Well, my impression is that at the moment we have a well defined
educational vision and a pretty solid UX design based on it. What we lack
is an hardware+software platform to run it on. So I don't think trying to
find a solution for that is getting "bogged down", all the contrary.

On Tuesday, 5 November 2013, Caryl Bigenho wrote:

> Hi…
>
> Last year at SCaLE George Hunt helped me get Sugar running on my RPi.
> Because our booth was so busy, it took parts of both Saturday and Sunday to
> get it going. I then tried it when I got home and found that it was prone
> to stalls. Of course, this was back in late February and there may have
> been improvements since then. If so, please let me know where to find the
> download and instructions for installing.
>
> I would like to suggest we keep the idea of Sugar on the RPi in mind, but
> perhaps in a smaller, reduced size with only a few carefully selected
> Activities. Perhaps it could be called "A Taste Of Sugar."
>
> Remember, the whole idea behind the RPi is to get young people involved in
> really learning about computers and computing and to do creative things
> with them. With this in mind, some of the Activities that could be part
> of a small version of Sugar might include Turtle Blocks for robotics, a
> small version of Tam Tam for experimenting with creating musical sounds and
> actually composing with loops (I realize even a tiny version of Tam Tam
> would be a huge undertaking, but very worthwhile), Pippy for learning
> Python, etc.
>
> As we discuss where our group(s) should focus in the future, let's try not
> to get to bogged down in discussions of hardware platforms and software
> solutions. First and foremost we might want to consider the educational
> experience we want to make available to students. Hopefully, it will be
> something that fosters creativity, collaboration, and problem solving while
> making projects of all kinds imaginable.
>
> Caryl
>
> > Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2013 13:46:31 +1100
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> > Subject: Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [Marketing] [Sur] Sugar oversight
> board meeting
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 04, 2013 at 04:40:51PM -0800, Thomas Gilliard wrote:
> > >
> > > On 11/4/2013 4:17 PM, Daniel Narvaez wrote:
> > >
> > > On 4 November 2013 23:05, Peter Robinson <pbrobinson at gmail.com<javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'pbrobinson at gmail.com');>>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > Sugar on Android or the Raspberry Pi might have an interesting
> > > marketing effect but the result would be truly terrible as it would be
> > > essentially unusable and have a terrible experience.
> > >
> > >
> > > Can you elaborate on why you think it would be a terrible experience
> on the
> > > Raspberry Pi? I never tested it there, I was just hoping it could be a
> nice
> > > target...
> > >
> > >
> > > Look at these older tests of sugar on the RPi:
> > > http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Testing/Reports/ARM_RPi
> > >
> > > This part of the Advanced topics wiki page on the sugarlabs wiki:
> > >
> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit/sck/Advanced_Topics#ARM
> > >
> > > Tom Gilliard
> >
> > I could not find any evidence of user experience testing, or
> > performance evaluation, in the two links you gave. Did you give the
> > right ones?
> >
> > I agree with Peter, I don't think it will perform well, but I don't
> > know in what way it won't perform well, so I can't guess where effort
> > would have to be spent to fix it.
> >
> > (especially in comparison to an XO-1)
> >
> > --
> > James Cameron
> > http://quozl.linux.org.au/
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Daniel Narvaez
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