[Sugar-devel] [FEATURE] multiple home views

[Manuel Quiñones]

After reading the old thread,

I see there was agreement on the problem, but no one discussed the
solution / workflow.

I think multiple home views can complicate the Sugar interface.
Overloading the favorites as proposed complicates things, IMHO.

Here are two other options:

- A School activity that is a launcher of other activities.  It can
have collections like "Math", etc.

- Enhace the search entry: search for tags.  Add tags to activities
like "math". Provide autocompletion.

2013/5/2 Walter Bender <walter.bender at gmail.com>:
> As per the enclosed discussion on IRC, I'd like to get some feedback on the
> multiple homeview feature request.
>
>
> manuq: I am really happy this feature has landed. I think it is really great
> manuq    yes!!
> manuq    I think we should do screencasts to showcase the great stuff that's
> been added
> walterbender    manuq: now that background has landed, I'll work on
> multi-homeview. Also an important feature
> manuq    walterbender: is there a feature page for multi homes?
> manuq    walterbender: I'm less confident on multi homes.. I would like to
> know user cases, feedback from deploys, and a discussion about the workflow
> manuq    I fear it can complicate sugar too much
> walterbender    manuq: there is a very important use case: teachers want
> control over the desktop in the classroom
> walterbender    manuq: so the simple solution is one desktop for school and
> one for the user
> walterbender    manuq: this was asked for in Peru and Australia
> walterbender    manuq: in Peru, because teachers found the varied desktops
> confusing, they wouldn't let kids add apps
> walterbender    in Audtralia, they'd like to set the desktop per lesson
> manuq    ouch
> walterbender    manuq: so I think this is actually quite important
> manuq    one desktop per lesson? uff
> walterbender    manuq: I spoke with gonzalo_odiard_ about adding a feature
> to his share activity to let the teacher set the desktop
> walterbender    manuq: but all of these things would suggest we want the
> kids to have an independent desktop
> walterbender    hence the feature
> manuq    that can be resolved with an activity.. a launcher activity with a
> collection of activity icons maybe?
> gonzalo_odiard_    walterbender, anyway, the multiple desktop feature
> deserve more discussion on the ml
> walterbender    manuq: and yes, there is a feature page kicking around for
> this [1]
> manuq    gonzalo_odiard_: +1
> manuq    walterbender: great
> walterbender    manuq, gonzalo_odiard_ the feature was proposed a long time
> ago and implemented 6 months ago.
> gonzalo_odiard_    walterbender, i know
> manuq    walterbender: let's open a thread so everyone can speak
> walterbender    manuq, gonzalo_odiard_ how do you suggest we get the
> discussion going?
> walterbender    seems there has been ample opportunity
> walterbender    many emails sent
> walterbender    but I am happy to open the door yet again
> manuq    walterbender: sorry I don't remember the discussions
> gonzalo_odiard_    walterbender, i looked at the implementation and was not
> very good neither
> manuq    walterbender: so maybe add a new thread with links to the old
> discussions
> walterbender    gonzalo_odiard_: that is a different issue
> walterbender    manuq: I'll post this discussion, with links to the list and
> we can continue the discussion [2]
> gonzalo_odiard_    walterbender, but is important too
> manuq    great
> walterbender    gonzalo_odiard_: undoubtedly it is important.
> manuq    at first glance, I think a launcher activity with collections of
> activities can be a better solution
> manuq    so you can have a "math" collection for example
> gonzalo_odiard_    manuq, walterbender, right now we have a configuration
> for the activities a deployment don't want be deleted by the kids. we can
> extend that to have other collections configured. then we can have
> activities asociated to math, arts, science....
> gonzalo_odiard_    and we can use that info to populate different desktops
> gonzalo_odiard_    (maybe showing different background images?)
> walterbender    now were really are making things complicated
> walterbender    I think this direction makes too many assumptions about how
> things work in the classroom
> walterbender    let's keep it simple
> manuq    an activity that doesn't mess the spiral, for example?
> walterbender    gonzalo_odiard_: I really think you are over-engineering a
> simple request
>
> [1] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/Multiple_home_views
> [2] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/2011-May/031266.html
>
> -walter
>
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