[Sugar-devel] Features: Background image in Home View

Walter Bender walter.bender at gmail.com
Mon Mar 25 15:12:14 EDT 2013


On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 12:41 PM, Manuel Quiñones <manuq at laptop.org> wrote:
> Counter-proposal:  add tiled backgrounds
>
> Mockup: http://dev.laptop.org/~manuq/bg-mockup.png
>
> - let the user select a shape (star, football, animal footsteps, etc)
> - the color of the shapes is selected by Sugar as the opposite to the
> XO colors and very light, almost white.  (Knowledge on Munsell colors
> is required to develop it)

I am pleased to see the reference to Munsell. (I used Munsell in part
to help with the design of the original set of XO colors and use it in
the Color Deducto activity). But I think if we were to go this route,
we won't need to burden the end user with needing to know about
Munsell; we can add a hue/value/chroma family for each XO color from
which we could improvise as part of xocolor.py. It'd be a nice
addition independent of this particular feature proposal.

-walter
>
> Future:
>
> - add a Shapes activity to design the shapes.
>
> What do you think?  Of course, we'll need developer hands for this.
>
> 2013/3/25 Manuel Quiñones <manuq at laptop.org>:
>> Testing the latest patch..
>>
>> 2013/3/25 Gonzalo Odiard <gonzalo at laptop.org>:
>>> Good catch.
>>>
>>> Replaced by the more pythonic:
>>>
>>>     def _update_background_image(self, *args):
>>>         self._background_pixbuf = None
>>>         if BACKGROUND_IMAGE_PATH and os.path.exists(BACKGROUND_IMAGE_PATH):
>>>             try:
>>>
>>> Gonzalo
>>
>> My first impression is that this feature can potentially hurt the
>> clean design of Sugar at some points:
>>
>> - the icons color semantic
>> - high contrast, accesibility
>>
>> I would like to know more about why is this a long requested feature,
>> who requests for it.  I suspect the requirement could come from people
>> who is used to conventional PCs, not from kids whos first interaction
>> with a computer is the XO.
>>
>> From the wiki page, I can't distinguish the good background examples
>> from the bad ones.  All look preety obstrusive to me.  In fact I can't
>> think how a good background could be.  Its colors should be far from
>> the grey outline, and far from the user colors too.  And the main
>> problem is that the user colors are different for each user, so a
>> background that works for a user could not work for the others.  In
>> case including this, a good testing contest could be: given a
>> background, provide the XO colors that make it fail.
>>
>> In case we have concensus including this, I have noticed that:
>>
>> - Adding it only in the home view kills the ilussion of having three
>> zoom views.  The background should be displayed in all three, I think.
>>
>> - I see the home view is not correctly aligned in the vertical axis.
>>
>> - Why it needs a restart?
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> --
>> .. manuq ..
>
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>
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> .. manuq ..
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