[Sugar-devel] [FEATURES][DESIGN] Network proxy configuration

Martin Abente martin.abente.lahaye at gmail.com
Thu Mar 14 22:23:53 EDT 2013


I think this feature (proxy-config) is useful, just as the modem-config is,
which is included now.

dsd's brings a valid questioning of whether this kind of "technical"
features should be included or not. I think this particular matter requires
a broader discussion about how we could conciliate sugar's education
objectives and its interface responsibilities.

Until we can do that, the Network CP UI seems a good place.

Just my opinion.

On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 9:01 PM, Sameer Verma <sverma at sfsu.edu> wrote:

> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 1:31 PM, Gonzalo Odiard <gonzalo at laptop.org>
> wrote:
> > While I understand your point about the radio checkbox,
> > this show a few bugs or fails in design in Sugar too.
> > Trying right now I see:
> > * The text is confusing:
> > "Turn off the wireless radio to save battery life"
> > [] Radio
> >
> > Checked is on or off? What means Radio? Is not clear
> >
>
> Should be a radio button. Wi-Fi on/off.
> http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.education.sugar.devel/34909
>
> Sameer
>
> > * After uncheck the checkbox, go to the neightborview,
> > the ap are not visible but the ad-hoc are.
> > If there are not network, the ad-hoc is not working, right?
> >
> > * May be we can show a message in the neighborview.
> > "The radio/wireless interface is down, go to the control panel to use it"
> > or similar. The same in the device icon in the frame.
> >
> > All these issues probably help to make worst the situation.
> >
> > About the network proxy configuration, I agree is better have a automatic
> > configuration _if_possible_, but there are times when is not possible,
> > then we should provide a solution. Has been a request for a long time,
> > and the development is already 90% done
> >
> > Gonzalo
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 5:15 PM, Daniel Drake <dsd at laptop.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Alan Jhonn Aguiar Schwyn
> >> <alanjas at hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>One problem that I have seen in various places, children untick the
> >> >>"Radio enable" checkbox in Sugar's control panel and then return their
> >> >>laptop for repair because they can't get online. I fear that proxy
> >> >>configuration could become support headache like this.
> >> >
> >> > Thinking in the same way, we must block the command "rm" from the
> >> > terminal because the childrens can remove important files. Or the
> >> > command "mv" because generates that an activity no works....
> >>
> >> I can see why you might think that way. However, I have never
> >> experienced this being a problem, and I don't recall seeing other
> >> reports of this, so I would not argue for any blocking of terminal
> >> commands. The radio checkbox is a real headache that *actually
> >> happens* though.
> >>
> >> Taking a guess as to why we see the radio problem but not the terminal
> >> one in our field experiences, I would imagine the crucial difference
> >> is that the radio checkbox is presented in a way that it is easily
> >> accessible but commonly uncomprehendable to our regular user base. In
> >> comparison, those dangerous commands in the terminal are in their own
> >> world of inaccessibility...
> >>
> >> Daniel
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