[Sugar-devel] hello from Nexcopy - Recycle USB

Thomas Gilliard satellit at bendbroadband.com
Mon Jan 21 09:28:23 EST 2013
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On 01/21/2013 02:10 AM, Peter Robinson wrote:
> I can create a customer image for a 2Gb stick with some other fixes
> pulled in that can just be dd:ed onto the stick by nexcopy but I won't
> be able to do it until next weekend.
>
> Peter
>
> On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 3:38 PM, Walter Bender <walter.bender at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Replication is not the issue (we have Nexcopy, after all). So a 2GB
>> image with some persistent storage, even if liveinstall doesn't work,
>> would be the target.
>>
>> -walter
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 3:35 PM, Thomas Gilliard
>> <satellit at bendbroadband.com> wrote:
>>> On 01/20/2013 11:20 AM, Walter Bender wrote:
>>>> Is there no longer a 2GB image available?
>>>>
>>>> -walter
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 2:13 PM, Thomas Gilliard
>>>> <satellit at bendbroadband.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 01/18/2013 06:57 PM, Greg Morris, Nexcopy wrote:
>>>>>> Ok. Great. I can send them to that address.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Waiting for download link and we'll get them done Tues and ship out.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Greg
>>>>>> ••••••••••••••••••••
>>>>>> Sorry for the short eMail, sent from my iPhone.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jan 18, 2013, at 5:39 PM, Walter Bender <walter.bender at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hey. That's great!!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm CCing Peter and Thom to see what image they recommend.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Maybe the best address would be:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Walter Bender
>>>>>>> 22 Central St.
>>>>>>> Newton, MA 02466
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Many thanks.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -walter
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 8:22 PM, Greg Morris - Nexcopy
>>>>>>> <gregm at nexcopy.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hi Walter,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I hope this email finds you well and happy new year!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We have about 200 drives we can send you.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -- can you provide the most current download link for Sugar?
>>>>>>>> -- can you provide an address to send the USB sticks
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If there is anything new you can report...I'd be happy to hear it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Respectfully,
>>>>>>>> Greg
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> GREG MORRIS | NEXCOPY INC.
>>>>>>>> P: 949 481 6478 X 112 | email: gregm at nexcopy.com | web:
>>>>>>>> www.nexcopy.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Walter Bender
>>>>>>> Sugar Labs
>>>>>>> http://www.sugarlabs.org
>>>>> Walter;
>>>>> Look at this tutorial [1]
>>>>>
>>>>>    [1]
>>>>>
>>>>> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Tutorials/Installation/How_to_make_a_SoaS.img_file_for_repeated_installs_to_4_GB_USB%27s
>>>>>
>>>>>    Download a prebuilt .img file:
>>>>> http://people.sugarlabs.org/Tgillard/Soas_8.img   3.7G download
>>>>>
>>>>> This command can be repeated for multiple USB's:
>>>>>
>>>>> Note it takes about 10 minutes to write to each 4 GB USB
>>>>>
>>>>> use "mount" command to confirm USB device name and edit: of=/dev/sd(x)
>>>>>
>>>>> [root at localhost Desktop]# dd if=Soas_8.img of=/dev/sdc bs=2M
>>>>> 1912+0 records in
>>>>> 1912+0 records out
>>>>> 4009754624 bytes (4.0 GB) copied, 587.133 s, 6.8 MB/s
>>>>> [root at localhost Desktop]#
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> This is a real netinstall of f18 sugar-desktop to a 4 GB USB with
>>>>> firstboot
>>>>> not yet run*
>>>>> It boots from the USB once written (see tutorial
>>>>> root=sugarroot
>>>>> *user name and colors are set in firstboot
>>>>>
>>>>> Tom Gilliard
>>>>> satellit
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>> Walter;
>>> The problem is that the command "liveinst" does not install to USB at the
>>> moment
>>>     https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=896687
>>> So it is now only possible to create a USB stick with the dd command:
>>>
>>>   [root at localhost RC4]# dd if=Fedora-18-x86_64-Live-SoaS.iso of=/dev/sd(x)*
>>> bs=2M
>>>   288+0 records in
>>>   288+0 records out
>>>   603979776 bytes (604 MB) copied, 177.758 s, 3.4 MB/s
>>>
>>> of=/dev/sd(x)* use mount command to get device name of the mounted USB
>>>
>>> -Note that it will have no persistence
>>>
>>> The 4 GB .img file has persistence as it is a regular ext4 netinstall of
>>> Sugar-desktop to USB (Thus larger in size)
>>>
>>>   http://people.sugarlabs.org/Tgillard/Soas_8.img   3.7G download
>>>
>>> It would be easier to just use the above command from fedora 18 terminal
>>> repeatedly on each new 2 GB USB using the downloaded file;
>>>
>>> http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/releases/18/Spins/x86_64/Fedora-18-x86_64-Live-SoaS.iso
>>> -Note it only takes about 3 minutes per USB  (177.758 s)
>>>
>>> Cordially;
>>>
>>> Tom Gilliard
>>> satellit on #sugar
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Walter Bender
>> Sugar Labs
>> http://www.sugarlabs.org
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Peter;

The request was for a 2 GB f18 Soas USB with persistence.
  dd does work on a 2 GB USB but A dd'd  USB is not persistent.

I tried all of the ways I know to work around the inability to run 
liveinst and anaconda in sugar-terminal. [2]

-f18 SoaS-live Liveusb-creator works but does not seem to be persistent, 
even though it writes a persistence file : It will not restart after 
shutdown from first run.
    Stops at the first screen on reboot

-f18 Netinstall x86_64  [1] of sugar-desktop (Not SoaS) works and I 
produced a 4 GB USB .img   (but Walter thinks the free USB's are 2 GB)
    http://people.sugarlabs.org/Tgillard/Soas_8.img 3.7G      Full 
netinstall of Sugar-desktop to a ext4 / on 4 Gb USB

-livecd-to disk makes a 2 GB USB with 500mb persistence and /home 500mb 
that works and is persistent
    http://people.sugarlabs.org/Tgillard/Soas_8_litd.img   1.9G This 
will not be as rugged as the above 4 GB .img and will fill up eventually

    [1] 
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Tutorials/Installation/How_to_make_a_SoaS.img_file_for_repeated_installs_to_4_GB_USB%27s

The bugs I mentioned are significant:

   [2] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=896687
       Anaconda-18.37.11-1.fc18: Gtk.py:1624:<module>:RuntimeError: Gtk 
couldn't be initialized - anaconda does not start
   [3] http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/4289
      Any change in MySettings (Color; name, frame, etc ) requiring a 
restart kill the jabber connection. And jabber cannot be restored if USB 
is persistent.
      Restart of a dd USB will run jabber with the initial name and 
color if no MySettings changes are made.

Cordially;

Tom Gilliard
satellit #sugar on freenode IRC
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