[Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Sugar Digest 2013-02-04

[Chris Leonard]

It is 14 in some countries.

Tools for Parents & Educators

https://www.facebook.com/help/441374602560317/

cjl

On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 10:58 PM, Steve Thomas <sthomas1 at gosargon.com> wrote:
> Walter,
>
> Thanks didn't know about the age restriction. I can use this on my two
> youngest for a while to keep them off :)
> I also posted to Scratch to get their feedback.
>
> Stephen
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 5:44 PM, Walter Bender <walter.bender at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 5:30 PM, Steve Thomas <sthomas1 at gosargon.com>
>> wrote:
>> > On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 11:51 AM, Walter Bender <walter.bender at gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Kim Toufectis commented on my post [1] about online services:
>> >>
>> >> :Appreciative of the ideals upon which SugarLabs and OLPC formed, it’s
>> >> deeply troubling to envision a commercial entity like FaceBook
>> >> integrated into the Control Panel.
>> >>
>> >> :For a system in which a proprietary browser (Opera) or plugin (Adobe
>> >> Flash) are controversial even as optional add-ons, can we really be
>> >> headed for integrating a private corporation into the heart of the
>> >> OS?This is very difficult to understand…
>> >>
>> >> My response:
>> >>
>> >> There are several issues raised by our proposal (none of this code has
>> >> yet been reviewed and accepted):
>> >>
>> >> (a) Should Sugar facilitate integration with online services?
>> >
>> > +1  go to where the kids are.
>> >
>> >> (b) If so, should we do it in such a way that is service-provider
>> >> agnostic?
>> >
>> > +1
>> >
>> >>
>> >> (c) Why specifically are we working on a Facebook plugin?
>> >>
>> >> There are certainly caveats: First, Facebook is not for children.
>> >
>> > Really? I know a lot of children on Facebook.  Also the new Scratch 2.0
>> > is
>> > going to have a Share to: Facebook and Twitter, along with Youtube
>> > uploading
>> > at some point.  And look at the ages of Scratch users.
>> > That said as a parents of four young ones (or as our kids call us "Ma
>> > and Pa
>> > Luddite") we did our best to keep them off Facebook as long as possible.
>> >
>>
>> We need to tread lightly here. The FB terms of service require 13+
>> yrs. Our children are younger than that. Maybe the Scratch team thinks
>> it is OK, but I am uncomfortable with encouraging children to violate
>> the terms of service. That said, I suspect Facebook will address this
>> issue at some point. Or some other web service provider.
>>
>> >>
>> >> My intention is to provide a mechanism for teachers, not children.
>> >
>> > Why not both? Isn't our goal to engage kids? Social networking is where
>> > they
>> > are. Of course once its there its there for both.
>>
>> Agreed, but see above.
>>
>> >
>> >> Second, Facebook does not provide a place for file (project) sharing,
>> >> just a place for talking about projects. We will need other services
>> >> for that (dare I say, Google Drive).
>> >
>> > File sharing would be wonderful. +2
>> >
>> > It would also be nice to be able to "embed" a running project in a web
>> > page
>> > (when we get to the point where the projects can run in a web page :)
>> >
>> > Stephen
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Walter Bender
>> Sugar Labs
>> http://www.sugarlabs.org
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