[Sugar-devel] IRC Activity fixes

[Aneesh Dogra]

Okay. That sounds about right then! Go with python-irclib.

Thanks and Regards
Aneesh Dogra
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On Apr 21, 2013 1:04 AM, "Michał Poczwardowski" <dmp0x7c5 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello Aneesh,
>
> Thanks for your feedback! Your list of most important features will be
> really helpful during proposal writing.
>
> Before I start to prepare my proposal, I'll try to research available
> python IRC libraries. Note that mtime means last code modification in
> this case:
>
> pyirclib[1] - Whole implementation using 600 lines in single file.
> It's blocking and with not so many features (mtime: 2002-07-14).
>
> python-irclib[2] - Supports multiple simultaneous server connections.
> In my previous e-mail I mentioned this lib but provided link was
> outdated. It provides handy event-loop and It's in active development
> (mtime: 5 days ago[2]).
>
> oyoyo[4] - Small library, similar to pyirclib. (mtime: 10-10-2011).
>
> lurklib[5] - Small library described as thread-safe and event-driven.
> (mtime: 11 months ago)
>
> To sum up, The only library in active development is python-irclib.
> Its internals are written thread-safe and it suits all IRC Activity
> needs. IMHO, we should choose this one. :)
>
> Thanks,
> Michal
>
> [1] http://sourceforge.net/projects/pyirclib/
> [2] http://python-irclib.sourceforge.net
> [3] https://bitbucket.org/jaraco/irc/commits/all
> [4] https://code.google.com/p/oyoyo/
> [5] https://github.com/LK-/lurklib/
>
> On 20 April 2013 13:07, Aneesh Dogra <aneesh at sugarlabs.org> wrote:
> > Hello Michal,
> >
> > Great that you have decided to do a GSOC project for us. Thanks!
> > Please refer to my inline comments below.
> >
> > On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 5:03 AM, Michał Poczwardowski <
> dmp0x7c5 at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> I'm a regular IRC user and have few new ideas regarding IRC Activity.
> >> As sugar channels reside at freenode, It would be nice to have
> >> NickServ support build-in. Also, when ordinary IRC users use screen
> >> with console client, It would be great to have awaylog that displays
> >> our hilights even when we are not present. This feature could be turn
> >> on only for registered nicks and some webservice + irclogs will be
> >> involved. For example: when user joins channel, IRC Activity could
> >> show all hilights since user's last visit, of course with reasonable
> >> time/messages limit.
> >
> >
> > This is a really nice idea. Definitely worth implementing. But I would
> deem
> > it as secondary, if time permits we could probably work on this. The most
> > important features to work on will be:
> >
> > 1) Multithreading: The IRC Activity very slow when compared to other IRC
> > clients.
> > 2) Alert on highlight
> > 3) Whois info
> > 4) Backlog
> > 5) Multiple connections (presently you can only connect to one server,
> so if
> > I want to connect to 2 channels say one on mibbit and one on freenode. I
> > can't do that in IRC.)
> > 6) Theming (would like to add, but again its secondary)
> > 7) Encoding options. Not everyone speaks english on IRC, try going to a
> > chinese channel using the IRC activity and see what happens. Does it
> shows
> > the chinese characters properly? I haven't tested this myself, but I
> reckon
> > it won't work.
> > 8) Save chat history in journal. (Very very important)
> >
> > I would encourage you to open up your favorite IRC client and check what
> > features it provides, and would it be useful if we add it in the IRC
> > Activity?
> >
> >> I've found library[2] that could be used to replace deprecated Urk.
> >> Also implementing notifications and improving performance will be my
> >> priority.
> >
> >
> > The library you suggested, although better than urk, hasn't been updated
> > since 2012-09-29. Which makes me skeptical if this is the best alternate
> > available? Libraries tend to later act as bottlenecks. For eg: Urk makes
> > multithreading very difficult because it itself is single threaded.
> That's
> > why I want you select the best all-python irc library out there.
> >
> >> I will be grateful if you could give me some feedback to ideas provided.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Michal
> >>
> >> [1] http://dmpgsoc.azalayah.net/
> >> [2] http://sourceforge.net/projects/python-irclib/files/
> >>
> >> dmp at freenode
> >
> >
>
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