[Sugar-devel] Fwd: About installing Sugar on a stick... with "--format"

[Frederick Grose]

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Subject: [Sugar-devel] About installing Sugar on a stick... with "--format"
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From: *Coltivare Fiori* <coltivarefiori at connettivo.net>
Date: Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 7:01 AM
To: sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org


The first real problem that I found looking into Sugar was that I was
not able to create a SoaS following the instructions at
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick/Linux

This looks important to me, because I think that it is hard to imagine
what Sugar is without seeing one running, and to have one run, the
preferred way is a SoaS.

I eventually solved my problems by using (with the USB key mounted) the
"--format" option for livecd-iso-to-disk, like this

/media/soas/LiveOS/livecd-iso-to-disk --reset-mbr --format
--overlay-size-mb 500 --home-size-mb 800 --delete-home
--unencrypted-home /path/to/Fedora-17-i686-Live-SoaS.iso /dev/sdX


Now, I think that if one uses a key for SoaS, it would be simple and
clear to state that the key should be just formatted when installing
SoaS. Therefore, I think that some instructions now at
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick/Linux are confusing, and I
would like to replace them with a suggestion to use this option,
"format". Would I be right? Can I go on?

Thank you for any advice.

Ernesto
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From: *Peter Robinson* <pbrobinson at gmail.com>
Date: Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 7:15 AM
To: Coltivare Fiori <coltivarefiori at connettivo.net>
Cc: sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org


On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 12:01 PM, Coltivare Fiori
<coltivarefiori at connettivo.net> wrote:
> The first real problem that I found looking into Sugar was that I was
> not able to create a SoaS following the instructions at
> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick/Linux
>
> This looks important to me, because I think that it is hard to imagine
> what Sugar is without seeing one running, and to have one run, the
> preferred way is a SoaS.
>
> I eventually solved my problems by using (with the USB key mounted) the
> "--format" option for livecd-iso-to-disk, like this
>
> /media/soas/LiveOS/livecd-iso-to-disk --reset-mbr --format
> --overlay-size-mb 500 --home-size-mb 800 --delete-home
> --unencrypted-home /path/to/Fedora-17-i686-Live-SoaS.iso /dev/sdX
>
>
> Now, I think that if one uses a key for SoaS, it would be simple and
> clear to state that the key should be just formatted when installing
> SoaS. Therefore, I think that some instructions now at
> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick/Linux are confusing, and I
> would like to replace them with a suggestion to use this option,
> "format". Would I be right? Can I go on?

Sounds reasonable to me. Please put an explanation mark that when they
do this option that it will format the entire stick and that they will
lose any information on the stick.

Regards,
Peter

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From: *Coltivare Fiori* <coltivarefiori at connettivo.net>
Date: Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 9:49 AM
To: Peter Robinson <pbrobinson at gmail.com>
Cc: sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org


On 09/10/2012 13:15, Peter Robinson wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 12:01 PM, Coltivare Fiori
[...]
> Sounds reasonable to me. Please put an explanation mark that when they
> do this option that it will format the entire stick and that they will
> lose any information on the stick.
>
> Regards,
> Peter
>
>


Ok, done editing http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick/Linux .
Thanks!

Ernesto

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The warning should also include this reference,
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/How_to_Damage_a_FLASH_Storage_Device

When formatting is necessary, using the --format --msdos options may
mitigate that risk, (and leaves the device usable in other consumer
electronics, such as cameras, etc.)

          --Fred
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