[Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Sugar as a Mac Ap?

[Frederick Grose]

On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 4:27 AM, Peter Robinson <pbrobinson at gmail.com>wrote:

> On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 8:52 AM, Bert Freudenberg <bert at freudenbergs.de>
> wrote:
> > On 2012-06-13, at 07:50, Steven Thompson wrote:
> >
> >> Even just in English in Japan could help kids. The common denomenator
> for jhs and hs kids is an iPhone or android and the iPad at home...much
> more so than buying an Intel Classmate or having a hope of getting an XO.
> >
> > Sugar can be installed on any PC, not just Classmates or XOs.
> >
> >> It's not about price or energy requirements here, its about good
> education for kids.
> >>
> >> Can we get sugar as a Mac Ap at the Ap Store?
> >
> > I think Sugar-on-a-Stick (SoaS) can be plugged into recent Macs and
> works.
>
> You've always been able to plug SoaS into x86 Macs and have it work
> (just like any Linux distro), the latest version adds much better
> support for it and there's been specific interest in making it work
> properly with uEFI and all the Mac quirks.
>
> It's quite easy to use SoaS on a usb key on Macs and with something
> like VirtualBox you can run Sugar in a Window on Mac without too many
> issues.
>
> Sugar as an App on Mac is an interesting concept and with improving
> Mac support within GTK3 something like the Sugar in a Window concept
> we use for testing is quite conceivable once the Sugar port to GTK3 is
> complete, of course like everything it needs someone to step up and do
> the work.
>
> Peter


In the spirit of exploring interesting concepts that might stimulate new
development, might someone explain the obstacles that prevent Sugar from
running on an iPad, as well, discuss potential approaches to overcome those
obstacles.

For example, Etoys, an independent but significant component in Sugar, can
be run on an iPad since June 2010,
http://croquetweak.blogspot.com/2010/06/squeak-etoys-on-ipad.html
http://etoys.squeak.org/experimental/ipad/

Also with time, the current crop of iPads will become secondary devices as
newer tablets are released.  Folks will then be more willing to
void warranties and experiment with the operating systems.

          --Fred
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