[Sugar-devel] Yama First impressions, OLPC OS 13.1 31018

Thomas Gilliard satellit at bendbroadband.com
Sat Dec 15 17:31:59 EST 2012


On 12/15/12 13:50, Kim wrote:
> Kim <kimtoufectis <at> gmail.com> writes:
>
>> I'd call my 1.5 HS first impressions "poor."  Beginning from a clean install
>> (fs-update from a USB stick), things loaded fine and the opening "hello" boot-up
>> experience is improved.  After using the control panel to connect to the web,
>> set time, place, jabber, and frame settings, I killed Sugar in Browse amost
>> immediately (I tried to save the clipping I had just made of my developer key
>> link to my journal using the context menu the appears when hovering over the
>> clipping icon on the left side of the frame).  In three years of using an xo-1
>> and -1.5, this OS crashed more quickly than any other, and that includes some of
>> the earlier builds in this sequence (number 8 didn't have these problems).
>>
>> Finally getting the developeer key into Terminal produced a "that certificate is
>> invalid" message, so to complete the process I needed to add
>> "--no-check-certificate" to the end of the command as instructed.  These are
>> great ways to let send non-tech folks like me know they're not the target
>> audience...
>>
>> I agree the Sugar interface doesn't seem a developer priority right now; that's
>> a shame.  I am puzzled that brand new activities often only support older
>> OS's...and Dextrose 3 had some features I've given up hoping for in other
>> versions of sugar, like an indicator of processor/memory strain in the frame and
>> an easy way to offer user feedback
>>
>> Switching over to the Gnome interface also failed to delight:  I can't hide the
>> bars at the top and bottom of the screen by right-clicking as I could in the
>> past, and choosing on "Change Desktop Background" after right-clicking on the
>> desktop did nothing.
>>
>> In gnome I do like that I don't have to reconnect to wifi; my settings carry
>> over from Sugar.
>>
> Playing with this iteration of Sugar some more on a 1.5 HS, I find that trying
> to save any clipping to the journal kills the activity, and code streams by on a
> black background as (presumably) Sugar reboots, whether in Browse or elsewhere.
>
> As was true for version 8, certain letters (L's and I's I think) seem to vanish
> from certain text; so "Feliz Navidad" becomes "Fe  z Nav dad" in the
> similarly-named activity.  Closing that activity also caused Sugar to reboot.
>
> Ignore the repeat that follows; I wasn't able to post less than I quoted so I'm
> just going to triple my post through repetition.
>   
> Playing with this iteration of Sugar some more on a 1.5 HS, I find that trying
> to save any clipping to the journal kills the activity, and code streams by on a
> black background as (presumably) Sugar reboots, whether in Browse or elsewhere.
Seems to general bug :
  http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/4312
    f18 TC-1-selecting text from entry line and hitting copy with mouse 
in IRC-10 causes sugar-desktop and SoaS to reboot
> Quoted from bug:"Actually, its not only localized to IRC. I tried Copy 
> in Browse and ViewSlides and it crashes sugar."

  https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=885319f18
     TC-1-selecting text from entry line and hitting copy with mouse in 
IRC-10 causes sugar-desktop and SoaS to reboot

>
> As was true for version 8, certain letters (L's and I's I think) seem to vanish
> from certain text; so "Feliz Navidad" becomes "Fe  z Nav dad" in the
> similarly-named activity.  Closing that activity also caused Sugar to reboot.
>
> Playing with this iteration of Sugar some more on a 1.5 HS, I find that trying
> to save any clipping to the journal kills the activity, and code streams by on a
> black background as (presumably) Sugar reboots, whether in Browse or elsewhere.
>
> As was true for version 8, certain letters (L's and I's I think) seem to vanish
> from certain text; so "Feliz Navidad" becomes "Fe  z Nav dad" in the
> similarly-named activity.  Closing that activity also caused Sugar to reboot.
>
>
>
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