[Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Examples objects support for activities.

[Gonzalo Odiard]

Another note:

Thinking in the use case of a developer adding the ObjectChoser with the
intention
of show to the users the examples directory content,
like TurtleArt today use a FileChooser,
probably would be good have a option to set the examples directory as the
first displayed
instead of displaying the content of the Journal, and then the user need
change to
the examples directory.
I don't know how difficult is implement it, but have sense from the point
of view
of the usability.

Gonzalo

On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 4:54 PM, Gonzalo Odiard <godiard at gmail.com> wrote:

> Sorry, we are so busy, these days...
>
> I have tested it, and works as expected.
>
> A few comments:
>
> * gtk2 branch is in maintenance mode now, probably is better port this to
> the gtk3 branch.
> (Anyway need opinion of sugar maintainers)
>
> * IMHO the code added to enable configure the examples directory is so
> complicate,
> and do not add too much value. I think is better use a fixed "examples" or
> "samples"
> (as in TurtleArt). If the maintainer want use it, should follow the
> convention.
> We do the same, by example with the "icons" directory.
>
> * Finally, I think the button in the ObjectChooser deserve a special icon,
> and not use the activity icon.
> Probably using the "box" metaphor.
>
> Thanks by the work and patience :)
> Keep pushing! (my new motto)
>
> Gonzalo
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 3:23 PM, Martin Abente <
> martin.abente.lahaye at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Its been too quiet recently.
>>
>> Apart from Bert I have not received any feedback from the current
>> "functional design" concept.
>>
>> Anyone still interested? :)
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 10:13 PM, Martin Abente <
>> martin.abente.lahaye at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Nice! Please also give it a try :)
>>>
>>> @Gary, Gonzalo, ping ;) both patches are here:
>>> http://www.sugarlabs.org/~tch/patches/examples/
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 10:24 AM, Bert Freudenberg <bert at freudenbergs.de
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2012-08-22, at 04:27, Martin Abente wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > Hello everyone:
>>>> >
>>>> > From the meeting notes and Bert suggestion I have what could be
>>>> called the version 2 of this feature, greatly simplified and complies with
>>>> everyones rightful suggestions.
>>>> >
>>>> > To avoid spaming (for some time) the sugar-devel ML I will post the
>>>> patches just here:
>>>> >
>>>> > sugar:
>>>> http://www.sugarlabs.org/~tch/patches/examples/sugar/0001-Examples-objects-support-V2.patch
>>>> > sugar-toolkit:
>>>> http://www.sugarlabs.org/~tch/patches/examples/sugar-toolkit/0001-Examples_path-activity-info.patch
>>>> >
>>>> > Feedback is welcome!
>>>> > tch
>>>>
>>>> I have not tried it, but by eyeballing the code looks fine :)
>>>>
>>>> - Bert -
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> > On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 3:42 PM, Martin Abente <
>>>> martin.abente.lahaye at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> > I don't see why not, we can achieve both things :). Maybe someone
>>>> have another opinion regarding this?
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 3:07 PM, Bert Freudenberg <
>>>> bert at freudenbergs.de> wrote:
>>>> > On 2012-08-21, at 20:17, Martin Abente wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > > The design I implemented works like this:
>>>> > >
>>>> > > a. activity developers or deployments add a new "examples" folder
>>>> inside the activity bundle with their examples objects.
>>>> > > b. when the activity starts, the example folder will be accessible
>>>> through the journal as new volume option, and also from __any__
>>>> ObjectChooser.
>>>> > > c. Only one volume button will be shown, even when many instances
>>>> of the activity are running.
>>>> > > d. The example folder will disappear from the journal when the last
>>>> instance is closed.
>>>> > > [...]
>>>> > > Waiting for more feedback... :)
>>>> >
>>>> > And in another thread:
>>>> >
>>>> > >> instead of a magic directory name, couldn't the activity.infofile have a new entry giving the examples path?
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > > What I tried, or I am trying, to do is to make this feature
>>>> available as easy as we can, so even deployments could add their own
>>>> examples with very little technical knowledge requirements. That why I try
>>>> this convention (magical) idea.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > Okay, so by default it should look for a directory named "examples".
>>>> But maybe a different path could be set in activity.info?
>>>> >
>>>> > - Bert -
>>>> >
>>>> >
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> --
> Gonzalo Odiard
>
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