[Sugar-devel] Testing Rotate in sugar-jhbuild

[Walter Bender]

On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 12:25 PM, Gary Martin
<garycmartin at googlemail.com> wrote:
> Hi Walter,
>
> On 20 Aug 2012, at 00:57, Walter Bender <walter.bender at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 5:27 PM, Gary Martin <garycmartin at googlemail.com> wrote:
>>> Hi Walter,
>>>
>>>
>>> On 16 Aug 2012, at 16:53, Walter Bender <walter.bender at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 11:36 AM, Gonzalo Odiard <gonzalo at laptop.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> In anybody want test how activities work with the screen rotated in
>>>
>>> sugar-jhbuid,
>>>
>>> can do in the terminal:
>>>
>>>
>>> xrandr -o left
>>>
>>>
>>> when your neck hurts, or you have finished...
>>>
>>>
>>> xrandr -o normal
>>>
>>>
>>> Gonzalo
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>> Works great. Check out
>>> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/images/c/cb/Portfolio-27.xo which support
>>> rotation. But I am curious why the stop button runs off the edge... it
>>> would appear there is plenty of room for it.
>>>
>>>
>>> Not sure if this is your issue (my land line has been down most of the day
>>> and am on GSM network), but invisible separators still take space unless you
>>> explicitly tell them not to:
>>>
>>>    separator.set_size_request(0, -1)
>>>
>>> So your separator factory might need a tweak. See Physics activity.py line
>>> 103 for a working example.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> --Gary
>>>
>>>
>>> -walter
>>>
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>>> Walter Bender
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>>
>> I've been thinking for quite some time that we need a new approach to
>> the problem of toolbar items following off the end of the toolbar This
>> problem will be greatly exacerbated by the more frequent use of screen
>> rotate one would expect with more use of tablet mode on XO 4.0 Touch.
>> Most activities have not taken into account the potential squeezing of
>> the toolbar by 25% even of they take into consideration general
>> resizing of the screen due to rotation.
>
> I know this is a tough line to take, but we should file tickets against activities that overflow in portrait orientation – that includes Physics and Calculate ;)
>
> It is quite an effort making a complicated multi-function Activity appear simple, but letting activity developers off the hook to pile on features without keeping their UI under control seems like a loosing direction to take. Max ten icons in the toolbar (that includes the Activity toolbar icon and the Stop toolbar icon). We've had decent sub-toolbar support in Sugar for a long time now, lets make sure we prioritising that primary tool bar space and putting the less used features into secondary toolbars.
>
> Regards,
> --Gary
>
>> A simple solution would be to double the vertical size of the toolbar
>> and wrap the icons onto a second row.
>>
>> comments?
>>
>> -walter
>> --
>> Walter Bender
>> Sugar Labs
>> http://www.sugarlabs.org
>

OK. I can accept that decision, but I expect that many many activities
will have to change (including all the Turtle Art variants).

-walter

-- 
Walter Bender
Sugar Labs
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