[Sugar-devel] Maintenance, reviews, QA & co

Walter Bender walter.bender at gmail.com
Wed Aug 15 15:30:31 EDT 2012


On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 2:19 PM, Bernie Innocenti <bernie at codewiz.org> wrote:
> Improving the development process is as important as improving the code
> itself, so I think it's good to have this sort of discussion every once
> in a while.
>
> About 2 years ago I started a similar discussion on this mailing list
> because I thought that our development process was slow and frustrating.
> Some things have improved since then, but I feel there's still a lot of
> room for further improvement.
>
> I've not been involved with Sugar development for quite a long time, so
> I can't offer any specific advice. If the Sugar maintainers are
> interested, I could share some details on the Google review process,
> (which is really excellent in my opinion) or the GCC and Linux review
> processes, which might be a better fit for a free software project.
>
>
> On Sat, 2012-08-11 at 22:53 +0200, Sascha Silbe wrote:
>> Dear Sugar Labs members,
>>
>> == Executive Summary ==
>>
>> The current review process isn't a good fit for the current Sugar
>> contributors and causes a lot of frustration on both sides. There are
>> better ways to reach the same goals. The two major changes to the review
>> process I'll propose in this email are making in-depth reviews by
>> independent senior developers optional and non-blocking as well as
>> accepting "no ceiling" and standards compliance patches into
>> mainline. Other work to address some of the goals of the previous review
>> process has already been going one for quite some time.
>>
>>
>> == Why we should rethink our current approach ==
>>
>> I think it's time to take a step back and reconsider our current
>> approach for reviews and QA. For the past few months to years, upstream
>> reviews were primarily a QA measure. While hopefully many contributors
>> learned to be better developers, the focus clearly was on making sure
>> that only "good" patches were merged into mainline. That's the way many
>> (maybe most) community-driven Open Source projects work: Downstream
>> needs to show their contribution is of value to upstream (including not
>> having a negative impact on other parts of the user base) and does not
>> impair maintainability.
>>
>> Sugar, however, currently isn't a community project: Most of the work is
>> done by a small number of organisations with a clear commercial
>> focus. They have deadlines breathing down their neck and need to care
>> about what their costumers want (who are the ones keeping these
>> organisations alive), not what's in the interest of the general user
>> base. The paying customers are what keeps these organisations alive and
>> the organisations in turn are what keeps Sugar Labs alive. The small
>> number and similar focus of the organisations means there's not enough
>> diversity to address a more general user base.
>>
>> Tight deadlines and focus on the needs of paying customers doesn't
>> really mix with the style of reviews done by community-driven
>> projects. This regularly results in frustration on both sides.
>>
>> We should think about what we want to achieve and how to best achieve
>> it. Maybe we still want reviews to take place, but in a different
>> manner. Maybe we'll just do something else and do away with reviews. But
>> simply continuing the current way is not a good idea.
>>
>>
>> == Goals ==
>>
>> So what do we want to achieve? Some options:
>>
>> 1. Few obvious mistakes: Making sure the code doesn't contain a lot of
>>    mistakes that could have been easily spotted by some other developer,
>>    resulting in bugs affecting the user.
>>
>> 2. Few bugs affecting the user: Making sure there are few regressions
>>    and new features work as expected.
>>
>> 3. Few hard to fix bugs: Making sure that the risk of introducing bugs
>>    that are hard to diagnose and fix (usually race conditions) is low.
>>
>> 4. Maintainability: Making sure that the cost of doing code changes
>>    (including QA as necessary for 1. and 2.) doesn't grow in the long
>>    term.
>>
>> 5. Better developers: Constantly increasing our own and others'
>>    abilities and knowledge.
>>
>>
>> == Means ==
>>
>> There are various ways to achieve one or more of the goals above:
>>
>> A. Eating our own dog food
>> B. Private reviews done amongst colleagues
>> C. Public reviews done amongst colleagues
>> D. Public in-depth reviews done by senior developers
>> E. Public short reviews done by senior developers
>> F. Requiring public short reviews by senior developers, usually from
>>    within the same organisation, before pushing changes
>> G. Requiring public in-depth reviews by independent, senior developers
>>    (AKA upstream maintainers) before pushing changes
>> H. Manual UI/UX tests
>> J. Automated tests (UI tests, unit tests, etc.)
>> K. Automated code checks (e.g. pylint, pep8)
>> L. Leveraging the community of upstream components
>>
>>
>> == Proposal ==
>>
>> All of the means listed above have different trade-offs, there's no
>> silver bullet. Review bandwidth of senior developers is limited, manual
>> tests take so much effort that only a subset can be tested regularly and
>> automated tests needs to be maintained alongside the code base. We need
>> a good balance to arrive at a great product.
>>
>> My current proposal would be:
>>
>> I.   Do private (B) or public (C) review amongst colleagues to address
>>      goal 1 (few obvious mistakes).
>> II.  Do public in-depth reviews by senior developers (D), but make them
>>      optional (i.e. _not_ G) and non-blocking. Addresses goals 3 (few
>>      hard to fix bugs), 4 (maintainability) and 5 (better developers).
>> III. Require public short reviews by some senior developer
>>      (E). Addresses goals 1 and to a limited amount 2 (few bugs
>>      affecting the user), 3 and 4.
>> IV.  Manual UI/UX (H) testing to the extent feasible. Addresses goal 2.
>> V.  Implement automated UI and system tests (J). Strongly encourage
>>      contributors to run them (successfully) before posting a patch
>>      upstream. Where necessary contributors should extend the test
>>      suite. Routinely run the tests against mainline across a large
>>      number of supported systems (different distros, different hardware
>>      including VMs, XO-* and Olidata JumPC). Addresses goals 1, 2 and to
>>      some degree 3.
>> VI.  Accept patches into mainline that are likely to increase the number
>>      of contributors using Sugar themselves (A) or to increase their
>>      usage of Sugar, even if the patch doesn't directly benefit the XO
>>      target user base. It should not have a negative impact on the XO
>>      target user base, of course. This addresses goals 2, 3, 4 and 5.
>> VII. Work on making Sugar more modular, using upstream components and
>>      standard protocols or APIs as much as possible (L), allowing users
>>      to mix and match components or simply configure them differently
>>      (A) and reducing the footprint of bugs. This addresses goals 2, 3,
>>      4 and 5.
>>
>>
>> AFAICT I. is already being done. With Manuel Quiñones' appointment as
>> Glucose maintainer and his subsequent actions, we're evidently also
>> doing III. now. OLPC-AU and OLPC are doing IV., no change there
>> either. I've been working on implementing automated tests that can be
>> used for V., both on system tests (sugar-datastore test suite) as well
>> as UI tests (Gnome a11y based, not ready yet). Similarly, I've been
>> working on moving to standard protocols (e.g. XDG desktop entries for
>> Activities, ICCCM compliance) and upstream components
>> (e.g. gnome-session).
>>
>> The two major changes are making in-depth reviews by senior developers
>> optional and non-blocking (II.) as well as accepting "no ceiling"
>> (VI.) and standards compliance (VII.) patches.
>>
>> Sascha
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Bernie: any insights shared would be very much appreciated.

-walter

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