[Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Olidata computers in Uruguay

Esteban Bordón ebordon at plan.ceibal.edu.uy
Fri Jun 17 11:46:14 EDT 2011


Great!

I'm sending a few screenshots of activities reported. If I see any other, I
will reporting.

cheers,
ebordon


2011/6/17 Gary Martin <garycmartin at googlemail.com>

> On 17 Jun 2011, at 14:42, Esteban Bordón wrote:
>
> > Thanks.
> >
> > We'll try to start to fix the most interest activities.
>
> Thanks for your screenshots. I've created a ticket for Cartoon Builder,
> TamTamMini, and Distance, if you could report and take more screenshots of
> other activities you discover that would be very helpful:
>
>        http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/2900
>        http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/2901
>        http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/2902
>
> Some background FWIW: Much of Sugar and its activities were designed with
> the 1200x900 screen in mind, luckily with the XO screen rotation feature
> most developers were also often reminded and aware of needing to make sure
> their design layouts were flexible enough to work at 900x1200. When Sugar
> Labs was spun off from OLPC to work on Sugar, there was much effort from SL
> to make Sugar more hardware agnostic and work on more traditional laptops,
> part of this meant that 1024x768 was much more commonly being used and
> tested by developers; and the default when running Sugar in a window under
> Gnome was 800x600, which has been generally treated as the worst case
> scenario. So it's that 480 vertical pixels count, a reduction of 120 from
> our assumed worst case, that's catching some of us out ;-)
>
> Regards,
> --Gary
>
> > regards,
> >
> > Esteban.
> >
> >
> > 2011/6/17 Walter Bender <walter.bender at gmail.com>
> > On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 9:33 AM, Esteban Bordón
> > <ebordon at plan.ceibal.edu.uy> wrote:
> > > In most cases the problem is specific of the activities, then people
> must
> > > modify the activities one by one.
> > >
> > >
> > > 2011/6/16 Caryl Bigenho <cbigenho at hotmail.com>
> > >>
> > >> Hello Esteban (and all),
> > >> It would be wonderful if you or someone else could write up some very
> easy
> > >> to follow instructions for doing the screen scaling, in Spanish, for
> the
> > >> teachers in Uruguay.  Don't assume anything.  Pretend the teacher is a
> total
> > >> beginner (on the Olidata many will be). Make it a "Grannie's Guide"
> type
> > >> document and they will love you forever for doing it!
> > >> Caryl (aka "GrannieB")
> > >>
> > >> ________________________________
> > >> From: ebordon at plan.ceibal.edu.uy
> > >> Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 15:58:43 -0300
> > >> To: garycmartin at googlemail.com
> > >> CC: IAEP at lists.sugarlabs.org; yamaplos at gmail.com;
> > >> sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
> > >> Subject: Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Olidata computers in Uruguay
> > >>
> > >> > One of the most noticeable source for incompatibilities seems to be
> > >> > screen definition, 800x600 in the Olidata, and thus several
> Activities are
> > >> > cropped,
> > >>
> > >> Screen definition is 800x480 ...
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Ouch, quite a few Activity toolbars will likely overflow at 800x600
> > >> (overflow widgets land in a drop down menu in the far right of the
> toolbar
> > >> that shows the text from the tool button hint only). The XO is a
> 1200x900
> > >> screen, about a year or two back there was general consensus that we
> should
> > >> try and make sure Activities worked well down too 1024x768 as that was
> > >> common in emulated environments and regular laptops/desktops.
> > >>
> > >> These 800x600 display machines will want to make sure they are running
> > >> Sugar using an environmental variable of  SUGAR_SCALING=72, this will
> shrink
> > >> the UI scale down to fit the lower screen resolution. SUGAR_SCALING
> > >> currently only has an effect at either 72 (works well for 800x600 and
> > >> 1024x768) or 100 (for 1200x900 or larger).
> > >>
> > >> With SUGAR_SCALING=72 Sugar have some problems showing  properties of
> a
> > >> journal entry for example. I trying to set lower values of
> SUGAR_SCALING but
> > >> I have not getting good results.
> > >>
> > >> Regards,
> > >> Esteban.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> _______________________________________________ IAEP -- It's An
> Education
> > >> Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP at lists.sugarlabs.org
> > >> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
> > >
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> > >
> > >
> >
> > I've created a ticket to track the Journal Detail View problem:
> >
> > http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/2899
> >
> > regards.
> >
> > -walter
> >
> > --
> > Walter Bender
> > Sugar Labs
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> >
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